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Old 10-28-2007, 06:43 PM
gergong2 gergong2 is offline
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Default NL100 flopped Q high flush, ugly turn card against a nit

Villain is 30/2.5/3 over 100 hands.

I know preflop call is very bad, but what is your play postflop, escepially on turn.

Potsizes are bad converted, flop is 16, turn is 86 in the pot.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$58.24</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$98.90</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$100.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$316.70</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$126.80</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$118.80</font>)
[CO posted $1]

Pre-flop: ($2.5, 6 players) Hero is BB 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls $1, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, CO calls $3, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $3, UTG calls $3

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12.5, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $12</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $23

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($47.5, 2 players)
Hero?
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:17 PM
agnoke10 agnoke10 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 flopped Q high flush, ugly turn card against a nit

wow this is a really tough spot IMO. I can't really put him on any hand here to be honest. sets would have shoved the flop? as would like AT with A of clubs? god tough spot, im interested as to what other people say
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:27 PM
slush420 slush420 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 flopped Q high flush, ugly turn card against a nit

wow only raises 2.5% of his hands? wow that pretty much eliminates a set from his range unless he's been really card dead and picked up pocket 10's. The check-raise was probably not a great move cause of this very situation as it's much better b/3b the flop to get it in on the flop or keep the pot small-medium sized by the turn if flat called. In this situation I probably make a crying shove on the turn and hope for a set. I think the times he folds+the times he calls while behind/times we're beat here are probably 1/1 and with the pot that big a shove is probably best.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:28 PM
bubaloo bubaloo is offline
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Default Re: NL100 flopped Q high flush, ugly turn card against a nit

c/f. any hand that calls that flop except the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] will be looking for showdown value and check it down.

edit: i agree b/3b would be best line on flop, looking to get it in asap (you may even get some dead money from utg)
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:21 PM
gergong2 gergong2 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 flopped Q high flush, ugly turn card against a nit

i completely agree, i should have bet/3b on flop.
I checked the turn ,and villain made a very small bet, like 1/5 pot or so. I really had the feeling he is betting this amount because he wanted a call. After 20 seconds i folded and i was very angry because my flop play.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:26 PM
spivey spivey is offline
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Default Re: NL100 flopped Q high flush, ugly turn card against a nit

Against a guy like this, I'd consider CRAI despite it being a massive overbet on the flop. He's not folding QQ/KK/AA with or without clubs. Probably not folding AcKx, or maybe even AxKc either.
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