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Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
From posting so many hands, I didn't dare to make two separate posts about this, even though the hands don't have much to do with each other. Sorry for posting so many hands. I just feel like I am playing on constant tilt this week, and I don't feel sure about things I do.
Hand 1: 3rd street decision. Should this hand be played? Since I didn't know, I opted to fold. 7 Card Stud High-Low ($5/$10), Ante $1, Bring-In $1,50 (converter) 3rd Street - (1.60 SB) Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 7: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls Hand 2: What do you think about all streets here? One thing I see is that I think the river is a value bet. My gut feeling was that he had trip queens, and I was afraid of a FH. Nonetheless, I suspect I was playing scared and that this is a fairly obvious value bet. 7 Card Stud High-Low ($5/$10), Ante $1, Bring-In $1,50 (converter) 3rd Street - (1.60 SB) Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 7: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes 4th Street - (4.60 SB) Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls 5th Street - (3.80 BB) Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls 6th Street - (6.80 BB) Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___raises Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds River - (14.80 BB) Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks Total pot: (14.80 BB - $148) On a sidenote, missed value bets make me feel so terrible. If I lose $100 because I play bad that doesn't make me feel too bad, but when I lose $6 because I missed a bet I feel so incredibly bad inside. |
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
Hand 1 is standard fold given no low possible/dead straight/dead flush cards. Hand 2, betting river is fine since check/raise is pretty unlikely.
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
I'd fold hand 1 as well.
Hand 2 rr 3rd. the river check makes me cry. bet please. |
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
Dealer: SJR0084 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: ademgokill3 has 15 seconds left to act System: The $60,000 Guarantee ($100+$9 NL Hold'em) will be starting in 4 minutes. ademgokill3: fk Dealer: ademgokill3 has 15 seconds left to act ademgokill3: qq? Dealer: L_Goose52 shows [Qc Jd Qh Jc] Dealer: SJR0084 shows [Ac 5h Ah 8s] Dealer: ademgokill3 shows [9c 6c 6d 9d] Dealer: L_Goose52 shows a full house, Queens full of Nines Dealer: ademgokill3 shows four of a kind, Nines Dealer: ademgokill3 wins the side pot ($50.15) with four of a kind, Nines Dealer: SJR0084 shows two pair, Aces and Nines Dealer: ademgokill3 wins the main pot ($47.50) with four of a kind, Nines |
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
runner 99 to hit quads and win after all in on flop [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
(7stud games are my worst games) Why would you play K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on 3rd street when it is very hard to scoop?
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
KK has good equity vs a low hand and a worse high hand. seat 8 doesnt even have to have a low hand given he's raising from lp
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Re: Two stud8 $5/10 hands playing for high
What do you put the other players on? The guy raising with an Eight in the door probably doesn't have a low hand. The guy with the Queen in the door doesn't have a low hand. So this is looking like a one-way hand, and we have Kings.
Back when high-low split was played with no qualifier, high pairs were pure death because they had almost no chance to scoop. In stud/8, they have a decent chance to scoop when the low hands bust out. So you want a shorthanded pot, and you'd prefer that your opponents be on weaker high hands. I'd say that third is a good situation. Get Ray Zee's book. |
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