stars $6.50 QQ with turn pairing board and a reraise

ollie5050 · #1 10-25-2007, 03:24 AM

Absolutly no reads on willian. only the third hand of the tournament.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1540)
Button (t1500)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t80, 3 folds, SB calls t70, 1 fold.

Flop: (t180) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, SB calls t120.

Turn: (t420) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t280, SB raises to t1280, Hero ?

edited for title

AMT · #2 10-25-2007, 03:44 AM

whats the question? Are you concerned about the 4? Its a great card for you and if it were possible to beat villain into the pot over the internet, I would here. It's not close.

sippin_criss · #3 10-25-2007, 03:52 AM

I fold putting villain on precisely Q4 offsuit. Sick turn card but what can you do? You have to make good laydowns sometimes and this is a really good spot to do so IMO.

ollie5050 · #4 10-25-2007, 03:53 AM

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whats the question? Are you concerned about the 4? Its a great card for you and if it were possible to beat villain into the pot over the internet, I would here. It's not close.

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What does the villian have here? I am positive that he isnt holding A4 or 44, but as a learning player, i have seen this villian on other tables and was wondering what line this is.

ollie5050 · #5 10-25-2007, 03:57 AM

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I fold putting villain on precisely Q4 offsuit. Sick turn card but what can you do? You have to make good laydowns sometimes and this is a really good spot to do so IMO.

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At this level they call pf with Q4? flop with bottom pair without a good kicker?
I have seen it done with A4 before, and on the turn im shoving it all in, still I don't think he has a 4 here.

sippin_criss · #6 10-25-2007, 03:59 AM

q is a good kicker afaik

ollie5050 · #7 10-25-2007, 04:01 AM

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q is a good kicker afaik

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sorry noob @ terms: afaik?

I'm not putting him with the Q though

sippin_criss · #8 10-25-2007, 04:02 AM

as far as i know. its top 3 dont u think thats pretty dang good?

ollie5050 · #9 10-25-2007, 04:11 AM

I do. me likes the Q

anywho, as the situation happened, i at first thought that he played TT or maybe 55, but i took a second to think about it. I thougth that the shove seemed a little weird for me and kinda thought that he was bluffing. not sure if this thinking was correct, I decided to post it on here

AMT · #10 10-25-2007, 04:29 AM

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I fold putting villain on precisely Q4 offsuit. Sick turn card but what can you do? You have to make good laydowns sometimes and this is a really good spot to do so IMO.

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can you stop taking away the 10 seconds i take to make my initial post by filling the n00bs' heads with [censored]? kk thx [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]