a flop spot

Hobbs. · #1 10-23-2007, 08:20 PM

utg is a 26/18/2.3 over 1300 hands and appears to play well. Other guy is 31/11 over 100 hands or so and I don't have any specific reads on him.

I also probably have a LAGish image, but who knows if either are really paying attention.

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises, hero?

we 3-betting or folding here?

Entity · #2 10-23-2007, 08:28 PM

I'd muck. Pot's pretty small and SB's range shouldn't really be such that you're realistically getting what you need to call here, and 3-betting doesn't seem quite right given the ranges I'd expect to be up against.

I think this is a pretty good spot to consider donking the flop though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rob

NinaWilliams · #3 10-23-2007, 08:30 PM

I would fold. Pot isnt that big, you might get jammed. Not really a good spot to get involved imo.

Hobbs. · #4 10-23-2007, 08:33 PM

hey guys the converter messed up a little. second guy was the button here and not the sb.

yourface · #5 10-23-2007, 08:34 PM

bah analyzing multiway spots is tough

you're around 60:40 vs UTG's range, but SB usually has you drawing to 6 outs. his vpip is pretty reasonable, I think his hand range isn't going to have any K3s or 58 type hands in it

I don't think we have enough or a hand to continue here given the pot size

Entity · #6 10-23-2007, 08:36 PM

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hey guys the converter messed up a little. second guy was the button here and not the sb.

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It's even worse now. I think Button's range has you in bad shape (usually 88-99 with some broadway hearts) often enough to get ready to muck, but then you add the fact that you're out of position so getting extra bets in the pot will be even tougher when you do hit...

Yeah, I'd definitely muck.

Rob

yourface · #7 10-23-2007, 08:37 PM

just noticed the fixed hh. my comments still stand though

entity's idea of donking the flop is interesting. we're ahead a good amount and we put pressure on the pfr to fold a live 6 out hand. also we have redraws so we can call a raise

Absolution · #8 10-23-2007, 08:38 PM

I'm folding. I think it's a RIO situation. It looks like a lot of your outs are going to make them better hands and this could go multiple bets.

Hobbs. · #9 10-23-2007, 08:41 PM

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I think this is a pretty good spot to consider donking the flop though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rob

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fwiw, I actually paused before checking the flop because I thought donking might be best....but then I checked anyway.

VelarStop · #10 10-23-2007, 08:46 PM

I think a muck is in order as well, SB is most likely raising a OESD+pair or FD here. This is only assuming he's as loose from the blinds as a lot of 30/10 types I've encountered.