NL100 JJ in 3-bet pot and a cold caller

[TheLemonShark]

Both villains are 22/18 tags, no other reads than that. Standard fold, right?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($198.95)
UTG ($100)
MP ($74.75)
CO ($109.40)
Button ($100.40)
Hero ($225.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB calls $14.50, MP folds, CO calls $11.

Flop: ($48) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $80</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $112

[JFsports]

easy fold

[carnivalhobo]

id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

[rapidacid]

Yea you're smoked.

[rapidacid]

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id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

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I disagree pretty strongly with this ... cbetting here takes it down the majority of the time, or at least whittles it down to one villain ... if one ( or both ) flat call, easy c/f the rest of the streets with position

[carnivalhobo]

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id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

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I disagree pretty strongly with this ... cbetting here takes it down the majority of the time, or at least whittles it down to one villain ...

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i missed the part where this was the goal

[rapidacid]

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id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

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I disagree pretty strongly with this ... cbetting here takes it down the majority of the time, or at least whittles it down to one villain ...

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i missed the part where this was the goal

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Then don't take it out of context, include the rest ... hand plays itself after you bet ... otherwise, it doesn't &amp; you might make a bigger mistake later

[carnivalhobo]

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id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

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I disagree pretty strongly with this ... cbetting here takes it down the majority of the time, or at least whittles it down to one villain ...

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i missed the part where this was the goal

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Then don't take it out of context, include the rest ... hand plays itself after you bet ... otherwise, it doesn't &amp; you might make a bigger mistake later

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i play to maximize EV not minimize decision making

[rapidacid]

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id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

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I disagree pretty strongly with this ... cbetting here takes it down the majority of the time, or at least whittles it down to one villain ...

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i missed the part where this was the goal

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Then don't take it out of context, include the rest ... hand plays itself after you bet ... otherwise, it doesn't &amp; you might make a bigger mistake later

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i play to maximize EV not minimize decision making

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... lol?

[ciro bonano]

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id be checking the flop a lot here, especially if i wasnt going to bet/call

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I think I like this but it can give me some troublesome spots later. What if you check, BB checks, CO bets $30? Suppose you call, BB folds and the turn blanks, what's the plan?