First sng post: Stars $60 tough river spot

w33ktight · #1 10-21-2007, 10:50 PM

Just started playing these about a week ago so no reads on this guy but he limped in ep and hes not on any of my other tables so I doubt hes great. can I really put him on T7 and fold this? also, anyone hate turn check?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1470)
BB (t1515)
UTG (t1550)
UTG+1 (t1350)
MP1 (t1650)
MP2 (t1180)
MP3 (t1650)
CO (t1680)
Button (t1455)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 1 fold, MP1 calls t30, 4 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t120, BB folds, UTG calls t120, MP1 calls t120.

Turn: (t480) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks.

River: (t480) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t390, UTG raises to t960, MP1 folds, Hero calls t570.

Final Pot: t2400

hmm i guess he could have jj. fold?

vers · #2 10-21-2007, 10:58 PM

lol. Why did you check the turn? As played I probably 3 bet river all in. Your hand is horribly under-repped. utg probably doesn't limp t7 and qt...

kleath · #3 10-21-2007, 11:00 PM

I dont fold here vs an unknown, but wtf in gods name did the turn get checked, we should never get to the river with that many chips behind.

EDIT: alot of sng regs limp any non JJ+ they intend to play from ep, I wouldnt say that alone suggests he's bad.

jurrasstoil · #4 10-21-2007, 11:13 PM

i don't 'hate' the turn check, but against 2 players I keep betting for nearly potsize here, 2 draws on the board and I don't really want to give a free card. They have to pay for the draw, if they get there for free, you don't get any value and have to either give up a good hand or you are taken to valuetown.

JJ would have raised the flop and/or preflop I think, since JJ is vulnerable.

crystalallen · #5 10-21-2007, 11:14 PM

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anyone hate turn check?

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Yes. What was your reasoning? Slow playing? Hoping for a check raise?

Just curious, when you say you just started, do you mean SNGs? Or SNGs at this level.

kleath · #6 10-21-2007, 11:24 PM

oh btw hate is too soft of a word for how I feel about the turn check.

Scotty_12 · #7 10-21-2007, 11:26 PM

The turn needs to be led for 300 or more

Mench · #8 10-22-2007, 01:19 AM

300 turn, shove river.

w33ktight · #9 10-22-2007, 02:56 AM

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Yes. What was your reasoning? Slow playing? Hoping for a check raise?

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i thought i was beat...

uh obviously I wanted to check raise. the k is not a good bluff card for either of them? and ya I just started playing sngs i normally play mtt and cash on other sites

also yeah I called of course and he had T7

Kevin8423 · #10 10-22-2007, 03:20 AM

Bet big on the turn and I probably still shove the river as played but you should never get there without a bigger pot.