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Old 10-21-2007, 06:50 PM
tbaarslag tbaarslag is offline
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Default AA - Pot control OOP vs TAG

Villain is solid 20/15/3 TAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

MP ($215.50)
Hero ($243.00)
Button ($234.15)
SB ($207.80)
BB ($268.70)
UTG ($93.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, Button calls $9, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($30) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $23</font>, Button calls $23, UTG folds.

Turn: ($76) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $55</font>, Hero calls $55.

River: ($186) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $186

I was thinking I am getting most out of a jack and 88-TT by check/calling turn, c/f river. Is this ok?
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Kala1928 Kala1928 is offline
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Default Re: AA - Pot control OOP vs TAG

c/r AI over that turn bet, anything that beats you most likely bets more and even the solidest people go for the stack-a-donk.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default Re: AA - Pot control OOP vs TAG

I like the stack-a-donk line on this hand, mostly because most TAGs are raising the flop with 66, 77, 67, JJ, whatever &gt; 1 pair. Once you get to the turn a whole lot of rivers are going to make it tough to get value, so see if he'll stack off with 1 pair now.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:01 PM
ciro bonano ciro bonano is offline
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Default Re: AA - Pot control OOP vs TAG

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I like the stack-a-donk line on this hand, mostly because most TAGs are raising the flop with 66, 77, 67, JJ, whatever &gt; 1 pair.

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Besides 89/T9 for a gutshot, it's quite a dry flop, so I'd think that button can also call in position and get the money in over the next two streets?


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Once you get to the turn a whole lot of rivers are going to make it tough to get value, so see if he'll stack off with 1 pair now.

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I think he'll mainly fold those (OP said he's solid) when we show so much strength. We push like $200 in the $133 pot.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:03 PM
tbaarslag tbaarslag is offline
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Default Re: AA - Pot control OOP vs TAG

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I like the stack-a-donk line on this hand, mostly because most TAGs are raising the flop with 66, 77, 67, JJ, whatever &gt; 1 pair. Once you get to the turn a whole lot of rivers are going to make it tough to get value, so see if he'll stack off with 1 pair now.

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I thought about crai'ing, but: there are not many AJ combinations, KJo should be folded pf, and he should fold QJ- to my crai. So aren't we just stacking off when we have the worst of it?
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:28 PM
JFsports JFsports is offline
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Default Re: AA - Pot control OOP vs TAG

I prefer betting the turn here, he's still not going to fold a J.

I think given your line on flop and turn that I like shoving the river. I don't think you're behind that much, and also think that he calls with Jx enough to make it ok. I'm definitely open to being convinced otherwise though
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