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Old 10-20-2007, 11:26 PM
asg asg is offline
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Default NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

Full Tilt (2 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of 15.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font> 90, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font> 180, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

BB goes all in

Hero ????


edit: I had to enter some of the values manually...is it not a simple matter of copy/pasting the HH into flopturnriver?
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

What are stack sizes?

Honestly at the levels I play I will probably call this unless I have read that I should not. I think every time he turns over 68,36, 72, I will see A5 88 99 TT and I think the latter hands are more common than the former
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

I had ~2200 he had ~800

But what if it was about even, say ~1600, ~1400?
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

I'm calling this regardless of stack sizes.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

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I'm calling this regardless of stack sizes.

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I go Phil Hellmuth's way here.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

Why aren't we raising the turn? (Not saying it's a must, just looking at it from a different POV).
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

raise flop

donk bets are going to be 5X/draws/air WAY more often than 7X in this situation
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

Sorry, I'm a bit new. What's considered a donk bet? I never knew pot bets were donk bets (or are they?)

Anyways, when he bet 180 on the flop, I had this HUGE gut feeling he had a 7. Either way, I played as you guys suggested and called his all in (him having a 7 was VERY unlikely...obviously)...but he did have the 7. Too bad I sucked out and hit a J on the river =)
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

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Why aren't we raising the turn? (Not saying it's a must, just looking at it from a different POV).

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villain was all-in on the turn?

of course this is a seven sometimes but you will very often see 88 or stuff like that.
Smaller PPs or Ak, AQ trying to make a move.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: NLTRN: pocket jacks, look at this hand please

I can't see this being a 7. I'm calling any day.
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