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Old 10-20-2007, 09:50 PM
hukilai hukilai is offline
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Default A3s opening all-in in LP

FTP, $24+2, $24K guaranteed.
Blinds are 80/160, average table stacks are about 2-3 thousands (two people with 5-6K), and table is playing really tight.

I have 2,100 and it is folded to me in LP with A3s and I open shove. Standard?

If not, what is maximum amount of chips you would open shove here?

Results are below:
<font color="white"> SB tanks, but finally calls with KK, which hold up. </font>
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: A3s opening all-in in LP

It isn't standard .

You're not that desperate where you have to make a move .
Just make a standard raise and play accordingly .
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:58 PM
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Around 10 bb's is usually the cut-off point .
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: A3s opening all-in in LP

wayyyy too loose...either fold or make standard 2.5 raise
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: A3s opening all-in in LP

Where in LP? There's a big diff between hijack and button.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:52 AM
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Hold on, hold on tigers. His M was 5.8 which is a perfect open shove with a3s lp M 6 w/first in vigor. If someone calls his shove with an A he isnt that bad of a dog up against any other ace, non pair and he is suited if a flush peels. Forces the blinds and any limper's into a tough decision for most likly a big portion of their stack with out a premium hand. (sometimes they will wake up.
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This isn't a "bad" shove at all, in fact I really like it. Aggressive, yes. Whoever said "standard raise" is joking right?
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: A3s opening all-in in LP

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what is maximum amount of chips you would open shove here?

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Probably around an 8M max.

M = ((Stack amount) / (the initial pot amount with blinds and antes))

Dan Harringtons series covers the zones which in this spot he was orange, border of red. Open shove, first in, any Axs most pairs, broadway cards, SCs...
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:25 AM
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Hold on, hold on tigers. His M was 5.8 which is a perfect open shove with a3s lp M 6 w/first in vigor. If someone calls his shove with an A he isnt that bad of a dog up against any other ace, non pair and he is suited if a flush peels. Forces the blinds and any limper's into a tough decision for most likly a big portion of their stack with out a premium hand. (sometimes they will wake up.
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This isn't a "bad" shove at all, in fact I really like it. Aggressive, yes. Whoever said "standard raise" is joking right?

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If the players are tight to OP's left, I would raise to 2.5bbs because they'll fold to that just as much as they would fold to an all in. If you're called you're certainly beat and you can shove at the next opportunity.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:45 AM
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Hold on, hold on tigers. His M was 5.8 which is a perfect open shove with a3s lp M 6 w/first in vigor. If someone calls his shove with an A he isn't that bad of a dog up against any other ace, non pair and he is suited if a flush peels. Forces the blinds and any limper's into a tough decision for most likely a big portion of their stack with out a premium hand. (sometimes they will wake up.
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This isn't a "bad" shove at all, in fact I really like it. Aggressive, yes. Whoever said "standard raise" is joking right?

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If the players are tight to OP's left, I would raise to 2.5bbs because they'll fold to that just as much as they would fold to an all in. If you're called you're certainly beat and you can shove at the next opportunity.

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You don't really care if they fold here. you need to double up, you need chips bad...

If your 2.5x raise get re raised you fold (horrible if u do) with over a quarter your chips in the middle? If you call you should have shoved gaining an extra way to win.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: A3s opening all-in in LP

I was in Button - 2 position, 9 players
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