AA deep with nfd

ejay · #1 10-20-2007, 07:26 PM

villan is 28/25 over a 125 hands, he is pretty aggro in general but and i dont like the way i played the turn..

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $508.87
BB: $102.53
UTG: $134.95
MP: $640.35
CO: $231.95
BTN: $110.55

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $10, UTG calls $10, MP calls $10

Flop: ($48) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero bets $45, 2 folds, MP raises to $130, Hero calls $85

Turn: ($308) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP bets $498.35 and is All-In, Hero ????????

sh58 · #2 10-20-2007, 07:30 PM

sick sick spot. i fold this. he seems doesn't seem like a retard.

JFsports · #3 10-20-2007, 07:58 PM

I'd pass for sure, I think you have 10 outs almost always.

I'd also bet less on the flop, make it easier for Kx hands to feel happy about shoving, and you will still be pricing out draws anyway. Having Ah helps a lot b/c a) less likely they have draws b) a heart on the turn doesn't make us smash stuff

ejay · #4 10-20-2007, 08:02 PM

being this deep i doubt that he will shove a Kx hand no matter how much i bet

cs3 · #5 10-20-2007, 08:08 PM

this deep i consider a flop check/lead turn line.
as playd i dont think you can do anythign besides fold. hes definitly not shoving a KhX type hand. i think villain almost always has 33/55 or a small flush. comeon, what esle is a 28/25 limping UTG with? people just dont shove in 200bb's as a bluff, like ever.

ajmargarine · #6 10-20-2007, 08:10 PM

If you are folding to the turn bet, you called the flop raise for what reason?

cs3 · #7 10-20-2007, 08:14 PM

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If you are folding to the turn bet, you called the flop raise for what reason?

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turn completed all of villains range that hero was beating on the flop... heart draws and KQ to be specific. i think hands like 67hh/46hhh are very likely here hodings for villain here

ejay · #8 10-20-2007, 08:15 PM

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If you are folding to the turn bet, you called the flop raise for what reason?

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this is what i thought to myself after. So, is the flop a push or can i possibly fold there?

JFsports · #9 10-20-2007, 08:16 PM

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being this deep i doubt that he will shove a Kx hand no matter how much i bet

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He wasn't the only person in the hand at the time though

cs3 · #10 10-20-2007, 08:19 PM

i completely dont understand the logic behind "we called the flop so we must call the turn as well"
wtf villain just shoved TWO HUNDRED BIG BLINDS!!! if hes sick enough to make that bluff then he can take my 130$ i invested everytime.

also shoving the flop is pretty brutal... and calling also puts you in a bad spot for obv reasons. which is why i think you should consider a flop check sometimes when youre this deep