Fold flop?

[oli1980]

<font color="blue"> Villan: 23/12/1,5 on 96 hands. I hate these spots. I do not want to play for stacks here vs villan but also hate calling.
On the turn since he didn't slow down on the overcard I fold. Flop is my main concern. Good? Bad? </font>

Chili Poker 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($91.10)</font>
SB ($14.50)
BB ($11.25)
UTG ($99.37)
UTG+1 ($43.75)
CO Hero ($47.20)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to 2.00, Button calls 2.00, 2 folds.

Flop (4.75) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets 3.75, Button raises to 8.00, Hero calls 4.25.

Turn (20.75) J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checks, Button bets 16.00, 1 fold

[Milky]

Tough spot. Can't really fold the flop considering he could be doing this with a draw (something like JT-KQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 22/66) and it's basically a minraise. I also think he would have raised more w/something like 77-TT. I'm just wondering if b/f is a better line on the turn. I really don't know.

[Gonso]

What are your stats? Is your image tight? There's a lot you can beat here, and it's a draw heavy board. With that board and your hand, anything is better than a call.

Not sure what to put him on, but you're ahead of most of it. 66-88 fits, but so do sets. JJ or TT is possible, hands like KQ things like that.

I think reraising to $20 planning to call a shove is one option, shoving is another, and just folding is also fine. Your image and reads needs to be there for you on this one.

You can't call here. Too many scare cards can come, you're out of position... raise or fold flop. I kinda like calling only if you're planning to shove turn on most cards.

[Logun]

the turn is pretty screwed up, there are a ton of hands you beat which will semi bluff this turn.

Any ace has an over + GS plus you add in the suited ones which now have 2 FD on board.

I actually think you have the best hand in this position. TT+ will normally RR you PF which leaves his 2 over +draw.

I might have to play for stacks here and shove.

[ryang]

i would either c/f turn or cr ai

[buttonpusher]

Don't like the flop call, you can either fold for re-raise it up if you wanna play for stacks. Depends on what your image is at the table.

[Sorcerer808]

I don't see how getting it in on this flop can be profitable unless there is some crazy history between you too. IM0 crai on turn is a better way to play for stacks.

This hand is really dependant on the history you have together. If you don't have any, it's played fine, he checks the turn behind a lot (most regs at 50nl aint really good)