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Old 03-04-2006, 05:46 PM
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Default flop peel

been running insane bad, questioning everything, hating life. sorry for the dumb question.

you open on the CO with Qs 9s, unknown sb 3bets, bb folds, you call. heads up.

flop is 6s 3c 2c

he bets, you're getting 8 to 1. peel here or fold?
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: flop peel

With backdoor flush and two overcards I definitely peel
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:16 PM
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With backdoor flush and two overcards I definitely peel

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thank you. it's been a rough couple weeks.
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Old 03-04-2006, 10:30 PM
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Yeah I peel here pretty much every time.
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Old 03-04-2006, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: flop peel

I fold. You have almost zero semibluffing fold equity on the turn even if you hit a spade, no showdown value, and a non-trivial chance of being dominated by a better queen or a pocket pair above 8s.
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Old 03-05-2006, 01:06 AM
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I fold. You have almost zero semibluffing fold equity on the turn even if you hit a spade, no showdown value, and a non-trivial chance of being dominated by a better queen or a pocket pair above 8s.

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Old 03-05-2006, 01:09 AM
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Yeah I peel here pretty much every time.

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oh man, this might turn into a heated debate. I'm peeling here 100%. He 3bet you preflop, there's no reason to fear the worst just yet.
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Old 03-05-2006, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: flop peel

I would peel here a lot, this is a button vs SB situation.

What is the SB structure here as I think this would change villains range significantly...

We are getting 8:1 immediate odds with 4.5 outs. Surely we can make up 1 big bet of implied odds somewhere with position.

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Old 03-05-2006, 01:43 AM
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I fold, I'd peel if it was just a regular raise but a 3bet indicates a pretty good hand, making it much more likely you are up against a big pair or AQ.

I dont think it matters too much though.
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Old 03-05-2006, 01:51 AM
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I fold, I'd peel if it was just a regular raise but a 3bet indicates a pretty good hand, making it much more likely you are up against a big pair or AQ.

I dont think it matters too much though.

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maybe for an MP or UTG raise. I think that SB 3-betting a CO raise is far looser than an original 3-bet.

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