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Old 10-16-2007, 03:42 PM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

Hi again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

This time i have reads. Villan was 20 / 12 / 2.0 on 50 hands. I call the flop to reeval turn. Since he seemes tight and I am not so strong (but he is afraid of the ten)I choose Pot Control and bluff induce over bet turn. You like?

Chili Poker 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($54.60)
SB ($43.45)
BB BB ($65.20)
UTG <font color="#C00000">UTG ($53.20)</font>
UTG+1 ($40.55)
CO <font color="#C00000">Hero ($58.45)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 2.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 2.00, 2 folds, BB calls 1.50.

Flop (6.25) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, UTG bets 4.00, Hero calls 4.00, 1 fold.

Turn (14.25) T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River (14.25) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG bets 8.00, Hero calls 8.00
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:44 PM
GSykes GSykes is offline
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

This is how I play this hand a lot.

You see them showdown so much random napkins its like printing money.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

I'd much rather bet the turn. Board is drawy (a 5 can give him a straight, or he could have a FD to go w/overs). On the turn it looks like you're ahead and I'd put him on missed overs as I don't think a set checks this scary board. I like b/f turn. As played I think the river call is good.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

Umm yeah, actually I would take the bet turn check riv behind line more often but if he has an overpair your losing money anyway
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:59 PM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

but he won't call a turn bet if he is beat!
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

I don't think you can always look at the hand from that point, here it's a relatively drawy board so you should protect your equity, most of the time if river hits any draws villain will check to you and you can check behind knowing that you got as much money in as possible when it was still good when by inducing a bluff you could see a lot of scare cards on the riv which he will be either repping or vbetting.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Phytopath Phytopath is offline
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

I float in spots like this alot, so I like to Float alot, so I bet alot of these turns just as I would with overs here. You can always check the river, since you are in position.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

Bet turn for value, this is an Ace a whole lot. Not too much, maybe ~9. Tempted to value bet river too but checking behind is probably best.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:36 PM
Chris_ca Chris_ca is offline
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Default Re: Pot Control & bluff induce or bet turn?

I liked the way you played it.

I think worrying about draws on the turn is a bit paranoid, the draws are weak sauce, and if he does draw out, he's not getting paid. I think keeping the pot under control and inducing bluffs earns more money and is safer.
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