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Old 10-16-2007, 03:03 PM
roihu roihu is offline
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Default 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

No notes on CO, third hand at the table. Can I really fold here, but it looks like set? Or can you figure any other hands?



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Hero (MP): $50
CO: $50
BTN: $71.70
SB: $29.20
BB: $69.10
UTG: $21.70

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, CO calls $2.25, 4 folds

Flop: ($5.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, CO calls $3

Turn: ($11.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $11.75</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $23.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:06 PM
21SuicideKing21 21SuicideKing21 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

can't fold here, you have to call. While it does look like he has 66 here, you can't fold here, he could possibly have a combo draw but I see him applying more aggression with it on the flop. just a cooler.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

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can't fold here, you have to call. While it does look like he has 66 here, you can't fold here, he could possibly have a combo draw but I see him applying more aggression with it on the flop. just a cooler.

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If you're going to call this on the assumption that his range has a lot of TPTK or combo draws, why not just shove here? He probably won't put money in on the river unless he's already ahead of you, right?
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

Given stack sizes you can't get away from this hand. And tbh, he could have been slowplaying his AK until the turn. I shove it in after he check raises.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

Funny, pretty same hand little later versus unknown. Becouse of pre-flop call this also looks like a set.


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BTN: $54.30
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BB: $51.70
Hero (UTG): $49.90
CO: $50

CO posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $2.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BTN calls $4

Turn: ($13.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $48.05 and is All-In</font>,
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

fold. What do you beat but a bluff?
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

If you had only TP this would be an easy fold, so what does 2 pair change?

Well it makes you beat AK, and AA, both hands we can normally assume he raises PF, or even on such a drawy flop.

We have to put him on specifically 66 here to be beating us. TJhh is a possibilty, and then KQ, maybe KJ and he's a donkey.

given what he could have that beats us vs what we beat + air I think this is a marginal shove.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

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fold. What do you beat but a bluff?

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AK, AQ, A9, A7, J9, 79, etc. You get the point. I'm snap calling the second one and feeling a lot better about it than the first one.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL Top two, aggression on turn

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fold. What do you beat but a bluff?

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AK, AQ, A9, A7, J9, 79, etc. You get the point. I'm snap calling the second one and feeling a lot better about it than the first one.

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Meh, I actually feel better about getting it in w/the first hand than the second, however I'm getting it all-in on both regardless. If you're behind to a set/straight you still have 4 outs to improve and it's very likely you have the best hand.
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