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Old 10-16-2007, 09:36 AM
kayaker kayaker is offline
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Default Live 1/2/3 Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

Not sure if I made the right plays here and want advice. Maybe I'll tell you what I did and what the bettors had later, but not here. I want unvarnished advice, please.

3-100 spread limit (1/2/3 blinds) at Garden City in San Jose, 8-9 players.

Hand 1:
Me (UTG) - ~$100
CO - ~$60 - Read: Loose, but not overly aggressive
Button - ~$150 - Read: A bit tighter, but a bit more aggressive than CO. Still fairly loose/passive PF.

I get AKo UTG and make it $10. Folds to the CO who calls. Button pops it to $35. SB/BB both fold.

What is your play?


Hand 2:
Me (HJ) - ~$150
UTG - $75 - Read: For this game, he was TAG. Overall I would rate as a ballpark 30/15/5.
UTG+1 - $60 - Read: CO from previous hand.

I have 88 from the high-jack. UTG makes it $12, UTG+1 pushes for $60. Folded to me.

What's your play?


Like I said, I'd like to know if I played these correctly, so tell me what you would do. Maybe I'll tell you later what happened and what they had.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:25 AM
King_Arthuro King_Arthuro is offline
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Default Re: Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

1) I'd push. I'd say it should be 22+, AQs+, AQo, AJs, ATs).
2) Fold. Imo theres a great probability to be against AK, TT+
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:51 AM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

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1) I'd push. I'd say it should be 22+, AQs+, AQo, AJs, ATs).
2) Fold. Imo theres a great probability to be against AK, TT+

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I think your range for the first hand is too wide but I'd also be pushing. Agree with hand 2 as well.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

Easy shove hand 1, easy fold hand 2.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

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Easy shove hand 1, easy fold hand 2.

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:41 PM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

Ditto.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

i prefer calling hand one.. you're often against a pair here and you want the dead money from the CO. you're oop but if you flop an A or K you're almost certainly good and the pot will be so big it shouldn't be hard to get it in by the river if he has QQ-JJ. if he has AA-KK then you're screwed pf anyway. but without a read i don't think you can fold AK. with a read you can def fold

hand 2 is definite fold.. you're a coin flip at best
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Live 1/2/3 Two hands pre-flop, 3-bet to me

Thanks for all of the advice. Pretty much what I suspected after the fact, but it's good to get confirmation. More info in white for those who want to read what happened.

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Hand 1:
I folded for two reasons. A) I had not seen a single 3-bet in the fairly short time I had been at the table and was afraid of AA/KK. And B) With the CO behind, I felt like I was going to be playing 3-way for $60 at least. I was getting a bad read on both players, so I decided to take the weak move and let them go at it.

CO - AQs
B - 33

They got it all in PF and I would have flopped a K for the winner. As it was, the 33 held up.


Hand 2:
Again I folded, but I felt a little better about it this time. A) I had nothing invested and could not see UTG+1 pushing this much without a big pair or AK. B) UTG was noticably better than the other guy and I thought he was unlikely to raise PF from that position w/o a PP or two high cards. I think my weak laydown on the previously mentioned hand almost got me into trouble here.

UTG - JTo
UTG+1 - 33

Turned a T for UTG to take it.


In both cases I probably would have called if I had not been worried about the potential third player in the hand. </font>
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