nl200, turn spot against loose player

startrak · #1 10-15-2007, 06:51 PM

Villain is 52/14, but hes not as horrible as stats might indicate. Seem him; check minraise into 2 players when hit straightdraw on 4968 board, he had 75. Cold call with QQ and check call on K high flop and block bet river. Also type of guy who wont fold top pair.

I have tag image, 20/17 or so, been raised off a couple hands so havent shown down anything.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($222.40)
Hero ($197.70)
Button ($119)
SB ($394.55)
BB ($750.10)
UTG ($298.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, Button calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, Button calls $14, BB calls $14.

Turn: ($64) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, Button folds, BB raises to $199, Hero?

JFsports · #2 10-15-2007, 06:54 PM

He's loose enough to call with enough worse Queens preflop and on the flop to make this an easy call

Suwalski · #3 10-15-2007, 07:09 PM

call

orange · #4 10-15-2007, 07:28 PM

do not fold. trips + 100bbs + loose player = AI.

TheChad · #5 10-15-2007, 07:32 PM

tough spot, agreed. I don't see myself getting away from this though. He just called a PF raise... hm... I stack off.

startrak · #6 10-15-2007, 07:50 PM

So given that he NEVER bluffs here (I think thats very safe to asume), you all still stack off?

Thechad, note that he also just called with QQ

startrak · #7 10-15-2007, 08:18 PM

yeah, I actually figured out the answer to this myself. Villain needs to have Q8 and worse queens in his range to make this call profitable. I actually think that he would make those hands into more bluffcatching hands and not be so aggro with them, since I am showing so much strenght he is either way ahead or way behind. In retrospect I actually think this is a fold, but I called and he had AQ and I got lucky and chopped on the river.

TheChad · #8 10-15-2007, 08:32 PM

noted that he smooth called QQ.
I still have trouble getting away. I see KK/AA, underpairs here. I think that he's flipping a better Q on a rare occasion.