200NL best line w/ weak flush?

blah-blah-blah · #1 10-14-2007, 06:21 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($200)
BB ($130.60)
UTG ($254.05)
Hero ($197)
CO ($341.65)
Button ($180.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $17, CO calls $17, Button folds.

Turn: ($61) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($61) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $48, CO raises to $155, Hero raises to $172, CO calls $17.

Final Pot: $405

about 5-6th hand at the table and I've never seen villain before. I haven't been in this type of spot for a while. I always am torn between getting max value vs. paying a higher flush off. what types of lines do you guys normally take here?

Bramsterdam · #2 10-14-2007, 06:23 PM

Bet/bet/bet, you're paying off a higher flush anyway. You don't wanna see a 4th spade and get max value out of KQ-type of hands.

Lucky · #3 10-14-2007, 06:25 PM

bet the turn because he's not giving you credit for the flush.

Basically, in raised pots, especially where you're the raiser, you dont want to worry about higher flushes. If he has it, so be it. But he'll have a set/two pair/straight a lot and want to get the money in becasue he doesnt put you on a flush.

Really only worry about flush over flush in limped pots.

danndann · #4 10-14-2007, 06:26 PM

i definitely wouldnt reraise the river!
i put him either on 55 or a higher flush

VPIP100 · #5 10-14-2007, 06:28 PM

I dont think he ever checks a higher flush on the turn, maybe Ax but almost never.

Also, bet turn.

pdoran10 · #6 10-14-2007, 06:29 PM

im usually going to be betting each street against an unknown, and i really hate this river spot, but i guess againt and unknown i get it in, but im not too happy about it.

blah-blah-blah · #7 10-14-2007, 06:30 PM

bet/call or bet/folding the turn? i woulda bet the turn for sure if it was Ts instead of Ks.

Xanta · #8 10-14-2007, 06:39 PM

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bet/call or bet/folding the turn? i woulda bet the turn for sure if it was Ts instead of Ks.

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I don't really get this, TQ is a smaller part of his flop range than KQ and you're not really gonna push him off of a queen on the turn very often just because a K turned.

blah-blah-blah · #9 10-14-2007, 06:49 PM

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bet/call or bet/folding the turn? i woulda bet the turn for sure if it was Ts instead of Ks.

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I don't really get this, TQ is a smaller part of his flop range than KQ and you're not really gonna push him off of a queen on the turn very often just because a K turned.

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I think QJ folds a lot more on the Ks but def doesn't fold if its Ts. two pair doesn't matter its getting in either way whether i bet or check the turn. at least thats what i was thinking.

VPIP100 · #10 10-14-2007, 07:07 PM

I dont think two pair will call a turn check raise since its so strong, also he wont bet top pair hands which you want value from.