AQ top two vs alot of agression (deep 200nl)

[SinkRox]

Villain is running 27/18/3 over 50. Usually I 3b pre but decided to call this time to mix it up, after all we are also pretty deep.

5 Handed
Seat 3: HERO [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($340.00 in chips)
Seat 10: Villain ($500.85 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
5typesofmeat posts blind ($1), the_extro posts blind ($2).

PRE-FLOP
wheezer40 calls $2, Villain bets $10, HERO calls $10, 5typesofmeat folds, the_extro folds, wheezer40 folds.

FLOP A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25)
Villain checks, HERO bets $20, Villain bets $78, HERO calls $58.

TURN 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($181)
Villain bets $141, HERO ...? I have $252 behind

[the machine]

if you just call the flop it has to be on hte intention to get it AI on a safe turn.

i shove

[thac]

I'd almost always 3bet the flop, but a call is fine I guess. There's just a lot of turn cards you don't wanna see.

I'd just shove now, he'll show up with AT, AK (maybe), TJs, T9s.. definitely more than KJ or TT.

[SinkRox]

Is he really CR'ing and then bombing the turn with a wide enough range here?

[SinkRox]

one bumpski

[thac]

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Is he really CR'ing and then bombing the turn with a wide enough range here?

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I think since you just called that he's betting that with like 95% of his flop c/r range .. so I think if you're calling his c/r you should be shoving the turn (calling is brutal leaving us with so little left).

The only time he shuts down after c/ring you is with complete air, so you have to figure out what all he is c/ring you with and if it includes his draws, you need to shove.

[danndann]

after the preflop action if he has a hand that beat us then he has TT not KJ. it feets the flop and turn play as well. only on the turn he bets to protect his hand from draws and for value. if this was a bluff, it was a good one

[thac]

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after the preflop action if he has a hand that beat us then he has TT not KJ. it feets the flop and turn play as well. only on the turn he bets to protect his hand from draws and for value. if this was a bluff, it was a good one

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Why can he not have KJ here?

[Nick Royale]

This is a huge draw or the nuts (JTss/KTss/J9ss). It's not often AQ/AT and rarely a set imo. It's never ever AK/QT.

I don't really like calling preflop.

[thac]

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I don't really like calling preflop.

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Are you 3-betting or folding?