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Old 10-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

No reads on villain except that he's been betting and raising quite a bit, but showed goods hands each time.

Why am I raising this flop? Is it for value? Is it because I want to protect from draws? Should I not call his push then? In case I don't put him on a draw or on a weaker hand, does it not make sense to call his flop pot-bet and reevaluate turn? It is a very simple hand, but it really bothers me, because I don't fully understand what I did there.

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($50.52)
Hero ($103.86)
MP ($50.00)
Button ($62.07)
SB ($19.77)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $48.52 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:59 PM
Ender Wiggin Ender Wiggin is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

The fact that he is leading into the preflop raiser here gives him a much wider range than normal IMO. Villain could def be taking this line with a draw or 9+gs or something like that. And the pot odds are huge. I'm inclined to call here, although it's a bit close.

Your flop raise should be for value and protection, and is fine imo.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

I can't really see raising as getting value here, the only hands you're beating are flush/combo draws, and even then you're probably only a slight favourite at best. He could also easily have a set or top two here
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:49 PM
iRunBad123 iRunBad123 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

i fold this every time. even if he has a flush draw or a combo draw, he is ahead or its a coin flip. this is a high variance call
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

Why are you raising this hand UTG?
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

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Why are you raising this hand UTG?

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Standard. Btw it's 5-handed also.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:54 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Don't raise the flop unless you're willing to call this.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:56 PM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

Since it is 5 handed, it is more like MP. I think you can raise this from MP.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

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Don't raise the flop unless you're willing to call this.

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Old 10-14-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - having trouble in a standard spot

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Why are you raising this hand UTG?

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Your raise ends up with an spr of about 12, which is the worst spot for 1-pair hands for this precise reason. Either limp here, raise less, or raise more, and you'll avoid this tough decision.
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