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Old 10-14-2007, 08:23 AM
cheburashka cheburashka is offline
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Default Nut flush draw hits on river. Action?

Villain just joined table, and has played one of the last three hands, taking the pot without showing cards. Overall, the table has been limpy and passive; I have been playing 14/9/2.3.

UTG ($8.90 in chips)
UTG+1 ($25.45 in chips)
MP1 ($27.45 in chips)
MP2 ($25.45 in chips)
CO-1 ($24 in chips)
CO ($26.05 in chips)
BU ($15.90 in chips)
SB ($15.85 in chips)
Hero ($38.45 in chips)

Hero is BB with Jd Kd

UTG calls $0.25, two folds, MP2 calls $0.25, one fold, CO calls $0.25, BU calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks. (Very typical action for this table)

Flop ($1.50): Qd Ad Qs

SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, two folds, BU calls $1.25, one fold. (TAGGy semi-bluff, or spewy? I had seen whole tables of limpers clear out after a strong like this)

Turn ($5.25): Qd Ad Qs 4c

Hero checks, MP2 checks, BU bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, MP2 cals $1.75 (I figured that no-one who called my flop bet would fold to a second barrel on that turn card, so I checked. As to the call, I figured I’m getting 4:1 to see the river and a potential nut flush)

River ($10.50) Qd Ad Qs 4c 9d

Hero??? Also, what do you do if raised?
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:49 AM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw hits on river. Action?

First and very important: this is not the nut flush. There is a pair on the board, so a flush can't be the nuts here...

Second, I rarely chase draws on paired boards, especially if the are as scary as this one. People love to play AQ...

Third, as hand was played, I think it's not too god. You're playing against 5(!) opponents, chances someone having an A or even a Q aren't too bad plus you're heavily OOP.
I'd check the flop and see how the action develops.
As played, I c/c river.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:02 AM
king_nothing_ king_nothing_ is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw hits on river. Action?

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First and very important: this is not the nut flush. There is a pair on the board, so a flush can't be the nuts here...

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The term "nut flush" means you have the best possible flush...it doesn't necessarily mean you have the absolute nuts which happens to be a flush. You can have the "nut flush" on a paired board.

At least that's what I thought.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:33 PM
coordi coordi is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw hits on river. Action?

He didnt say he has the nuts, he has the nut flush. correct term used.

Hes against 2 villains at this moment.

I think I lead pretty strong, like 7-8 and never fold to a shove as they have so little behind. I think the converter messed up as it should be UTG & BU still in so they have like 5 and 12 respectively...

Another option is to c/shove but I think thats a much worse line.
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