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Old 10-14-2007, 06:36 AM
Rodolphe Rodolphe is offline
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t2270)
MP2 (t1680)
CO (t1265)
Button (t2280)
SB (t1525)
BB (t1750)
UTG (t2730)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1265</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2130</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2270</font>, Button calls t140.

Flop: (t5955) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Turn: (t5955) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t5955) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t5955
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:11 AM
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I have to call facing a reraise and a rereraise ?
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:24 AM
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Without a read i would consider folding. You put in a 4xBB early raise. This gets re-raised and then someone else shoves. I'd say your against KK/AK/AA most of the time so on average you'll be behind.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:29 AM
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Without a read i would consider folding. You put in a 4xBB early raise. This gets re-raised and then someone else shoves. I'd say your against KK/AK/AA most of the time so on average you'll be behind.

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and that was what happend :S
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:55 AM
willperkins willperkins is offline
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What are your reads on c/o and button?

Without knowing anything about them, I would say this:

C/O is short stacked and could be pushing any Ace/Broadway/or PP.

I do not quite understand why button would raise all but t140, but I am sure he has a hand and wants to isolate the c/o. He could have AK,AQ, maybe even AJ. He could have anything from 55-AA as well.

Only three bad senarios.

Senario 1: One of them has AA or KK. Or, one has an Ace and the other has a King.

It that happens you are only about 16% favorite to win preflop.

Senario: 2: Both have an Ace
Both have a king
One has an Ace or a king and the other has
a pp,
Both have pps lower than yours

If this happens, you are anywhere from 50-62% favorite to win.

You are getting 6 to 5 on your money once you are all-in.

If my math is correct, there would have to be about a 20% chance that senario 1 would not occur!

If you fold, your M=12, so you are still in fairly good shape if the blinds don't go up too soon. If your stack was lower. I would push, however, in this case, I would fold.

I do not claim to be an expert, so please let me know if I am way off on my thinking.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:31 AM
Schmitty 87 Schmitty 87 is offline
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pt numbers?

please make it 300 preflop. i would fold vs. normal people but if the button really sucks then i'd put it in.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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I have no reads andn PT numbers, sorry
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:05 PM
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Raise less preflop, like t275. I think you can get away from it after that.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:16 PM
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I'd make it 300 or w/e pf and then probably just flip a coin.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:18 PM
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id rarely if ever raise less than 300 pf...after that, as schmitty touched on, if the button is bad im definitely putting it in here otherwise its closer but a fold.
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