JJ - I don't know how to play vs LAGs

tbaarslag · #1 10-13-2007, 04:18 PM

Vilain is 30/13/3.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

Button ($40.60)
Hero ($197.40)
BB ($309.70)
UTG ($80.00)
MP ($204.80)
CO ($197.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
MP calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP calls $6.

Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $15, MP raises to $40, Hero ....

Easy fold against a small AF, but I need some general plan against a LAG here, thanks.

tbaarslag · #2 10-14-2007, 04:24 PM

Bump; even a range of such a villain would be helpful.

Unknown Soldier · #3 10-14-2007, 04:28 PM

a better read then stats would be helpfull. I'm pretty sure flding isn't an option though.

Readzie · #4 10-14-2007, 04:32 PM

any line you take is dependant upon on how you play... you want a weaker hand to call.. so do what it takes to make him think you are weaker then what you hold..

i dunno... this is so bland

icanseeyourcards · #5 10-14-2007, 04:32 PM

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Vilain is 30/13/3.

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might be a set ...

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MP calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP calls $6.

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since he limp calls .. this is often 22/44/99 ... or a 'tricky' played overpair ...

I think his stats show that he plays a lot of hands "to hit" ...

This could be 42, 94, 29, aswell or some trash like that

I dont think this player would raise you with air on a flop he doesnt hit ...

Theres no general plan vs a LAG here (there are no general plans in specific situations in poker).

I would call and reevaluate the turn. If he fires a PSB again i'm out.

Shoving the flop raise is overplayed and the only hands you beat are TT/88/77/66-55/33.

tbaarslag · #6 10-14-2007, 04:46 PM

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a better read then stats would be helpfull. I'm pretty sure flding isn't an option though.

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I've seen him play a set very fast. He seemed to be positionally aware; not a bad LAG.

tannenj · #7 10-14-2007, 04:50 PM

i wouldn't call this guy a "lag."

i either call/cr turn or make it 100.

tbaarslag · #8 10-14-2007, 04:55 PM

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Vilain is 30/13/3.

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might be a set ...

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MP calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP calls $6.

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since he limp calls .. this is often 22/44/99 ... or a 'tricky' played overpair ...

I think his stats show that he plays a lot of hands "to hit" ...

This could be 42, 94, 29, aswell or some trash like that

I dont think this player would raise you with air on a flop he doesnt hit ...

Theres no general plan vs a LAG here (there are no general plans in specific situations in poker).

I would call and reevaluate the turn. If he fires a PSB again i'm out.

Shoving the flop raise is overplayed and the only hands you beat are TT/88/77/66-55/33.

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Thanks, based on this estimate:

Board: 2d 4s 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.016% 47.02% 00.00% 16291 0.00 { JcJd }
Hand 1: 52.984% 52.98% 00.00% 18359 0.00 { QQ, TT-88, 44, 22, 94s, 53s, 42s }

sh58 · #9 10-14-2007, 04:59 PM

if you have a reasonable sample, look at his raise Cbet stat, and 3bet if it is 10%+. there are tonnes of hands you beat here. you just have to push LAGs around. you could call and c/r AI on turn but there are too many turn cards that you don't want to see.

i would 3bet here

Shizzle12345 · #10 10-14-2007, 05:01 PM

shove?

Also wtf at folding vs pple with lower AF's. My view might be skewed because i play like 30/25, but pple are usually raising alot of these flops with less then a set. And my shoving range here is alot of flush draws, and if we have aggro history I expect to get called by A high flush draws pair of nines etc. If your a nit and you shove he will prolly fold all worse hands tho.