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Old 10-12-2007, 04:41 AM
cs3 cs3 is offline
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Default KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

<font color="blue"> villain and i have a lot of recent history and have played a ton of big pots together. hes 55/15/.9 over hundreds of hands and i have been isolating him almost every hand he plays.
i have stackd him twice so far:
--once he called down 2 barrels with a straight and called a river shove when the board had double paired,
-- the second time he flopped top 2 pr with KQ, i turned better 2 pr with AQ, i ch/r turn and he 3-bet shoved.
--another time he called a big flop raise, a huge turn bet to get 75% of his stack in, and stacked my 2pr when he rivered a flush.

he has also shoved in a couple spots where i felt like he had to be bluffing, but i had hands that werent even strong enough to be bluff catchers, so hes def not afraid to get his stack in.

Lately he has been donking almost every flop for like 1/4 pot when im the PFRer. ive rasied almost everytime and hes floded for the most part. (he called with a strt draw in the 2nd hand above). ive never fired a second barrel with air vs this guy.</font>

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $100
CO: $106.45
Hero: $255.20
SB: $145.10
BB: $36.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($11.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, CO calls.
<font color="blue"> standard right? </font>

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($41.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $86.45</font>, HERO?
<font color="blue"> i could probaly bet a little more vs this guy, but
(1)i wanted him to be able to call with any of his "i has a pair yo!" type hands and
(2) i wanted to give him the illusion of fold equity if he wanted to get creative with a flush draw.
so now? </font>
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:45 AM
DaycareInferno DaycareInferno is offline
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

if your plan was to bet small to induce a raise, why would you fold?
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

[ QUOTE ]

(2) i wanted to give him the illusion of fold equity if he wanted to get creative with a flush draw.


[/ QUOTE ]
Don't you have to call now?

I don't think you can fold with the odds you're getting anyway.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

snapcall
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

this post is mostly in regards to the plan itself... is he ever actually check/shoving worse hand here?
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:51 AM
DaycareInferno DaycareInferno is offline
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

well, personally, my plan would be to raise more on the flop and bet more on the turn. the guy clearly isn't good, so i'm not going to be too cute with an overpair against him, especially if he's losing.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

[ QUOTE ]
this post is mostly in regards to the plan itself... is he ever actually check/shoving worse hand here?

[/ QUOTE ]

uh yes.

diamonds with and without a jack, any AJ/KJ hand, god who knows what...these guys get so sick of getting beaten up by the "good players" that they just occasionally do some retarded [censored] and then we profit
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

given history &amp; odds you have to call, I don't even think it is close
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

i obv called because, well, i planned it that way.
just making sure i was thinking about my line (and turn bet-sizing specifically) correctly.


anyway, results in white: <font color="white"> villain had A9o and MHIG </font>
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: KK - i tell the donk i mean business, and he says F-you

I'd love to know who this guy is. what's his sn? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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