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10-09-2007, 10:52 PM
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Creation and Evolution Are One
How could creation be without evolution? How could evolution be without creation?
Would it be insane to think of them as parts of a whole? It was once insane to think the world was round and not flat when the truth of the matter was that it was round and flat! 
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10-09-2007, 11:05 PM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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How could creation be without evolution? How could evolution be without creation? [/ QUOTE ] Well one big problem is that Creationists believe that the big guy greated the earth on or about 5000 years ago. Evolutionists believe it took at least two or three years (eons) more than that just for us humans to get to the point where we can debate the subject. pokervintage
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10-09-2007, 11:25 PM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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It was once insane to think the world was round and not flat when the truth of the matter was that it was round and flat! [/ QUOTE ] what?
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#4
10-09-2007, 11:36 PM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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How could creation be without evolution? [/ QUOTE ] Quite easily, if God created the world as it is, or if God created the world recently to look ancient. [ QUOTE ] How could evolution be without creation? [/ QUOTE ] Quite easily. But maybe not easy to grasp if you like to think in everyday terms. [ QUOTE ] Would it be insane to think of them as parts of a whole? [/ QUOTE ] No, just meaningless. [ QUOTE ] It was once insane to think the world was round and not flat when the truth of the matter was that it was round and flat! [/ QUOTE ] This is wrong on a couple of counts. Also, how can something be both round and flat in the common senses of the word?
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10-10-2007, 12:05 AM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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[ QUOTE ] How could creation be without evolution? [/ QUOTE ] Quite easily, if God created the world as it is, or if God created the world recently to look ancient.[ QUOTE ] I'm not talking about God. [ QUOTE ] How could evolution be without creation? [/ QUOTE ] Quite easily. But maybe not easy to grasp if you like to think in everyday terms.[ QUOTE ] Please explain, as this hardly is an answer. [ QUOTE ] Would it be insane to think of them as parts of a whole? [/ QUOTE ] No, just meaningless.[ QUOTE ] No more so meaningless then any other debate. [ QUOTE ] It was once insane to think the world was round and not flat when the truth of the matter was that it was round and flat! [/ QUOTE ] This is wrong on a couple of counts. Also, how can something be both round and flat in the common senses of the word? [/ QUOTE ] So how is it wrong? What are the "couple counts"? Asking how something can be round and flat at the same time is like thinking about how Australians are walking upside down relative to us right now. Who's upside down and who is rightsize up? Both are.
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10-10-2007, 02:05 AM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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when the truth of the matter was that it was round and flat! [/ QUOTE ] I think you're on to something here...
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#7
10-10-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
You're not talking about God when you mention creation in a thread about evolution? Then what are you talking about?
[ QUOTE ] Please explain, as this hardly is an answer. [/ QUOTE ] You'll have to explain what you mean you by creation, since you're using the word in non typical way. [ QUOTE ] It was once insane to think the world was round and not flat [/ QUOTE ] The ancients and people in the middle ages suspected that the Earth was round by looking at things like shadows, and doing calculations of the horizon at various heights...apparently it's a myth that people always thought the Earth was flat.
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#8
10-10-2007, 03:38 AM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
I'll venture a guess and say that 1&0s is contemplating that the belief in creation is the forefather of the belief in evolution. Ie. if humans never wondered how we got here in the first place, then we wouldn't have evolutionary theory and we wouldn't have alot of good knowledge. New models of knowledge follows old models of knowledge. 100 years from now we will probably have thrown alot of our current models out. Then again, I might be misinterpreting it.
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10-10-2007, 03:38 AM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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You're not talking about God when you mention creation in a thread about evolution? Then what are you talking about?[ QUOTE ] Science. This thread isn't about evolution. It is about the possibility that creation and evolution are one in the same. [ QUOTE ] Please explain, as this hardly is an answer. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You'll have to explain what you mean you by creation, since you're using the word in non typical way.[ QUOTE ] What I mean by "creation" is everything that we can feel smell touch see and taste. What most would call "matter". This 3rd dimension. [ QUOTE ] It was once insane to think the world was round and not flat [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The ancients and people in the middle ages suspected that the Earth was round by looking at things like shadows, and doing calculations of the horizon at various heights...apparently it's a myth that people always thought the Earth was flat. [/ QUOTE ] The ones who swore the earth was flat must never have looked up at the sun or moon. Perhaps doing so may have shed some light on the issue.
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10-10-2007, 03:44 AM
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Re: Creation and Evolution Are One
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I'll venture a guess and say that 1&0s is contemplating that the belief in creation is the forefather of the belief in evolution. Ie. if humans never wondered how we got here in the first place, then we wouldn't have evolutionary theory and we wouldn't have alot of good knowledge. New models of knowledge follows old models of knowledge. 100 years from now we will probably have thrown alot of our current models out. Then again, I might be misinterpreting it. [/ QUOTE ] Your not misinterpreting it, your expanding on it bro. Good perspective!
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