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Old 10-09-2007, 06:24 PM
llamage llamage is offline
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Default 50 NL ... marginal situation, hows my line here

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($47.50)
Button ($40.90)
SB ($19.85)
BB ($35.20)
UTG ($50)
MP ($32.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $2.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($34.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10.5</font>, MP calls $10.50.

River: ($55.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $55.50
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:37 PM
Khumalo Khumalo is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL ... marginal situation, hows my line here

Wow, reads on MP? Is he one of those 'I block-bet my draws (and call raises anyway)' stations? Even so, it takes a special donk to pull that multiway.

In any case, lacking laser reads on everyone involved, which seems likely, your flop raise says I have a big pair or better, so already you're turning your hand into a bluff. Again, with reads, you might argue that you're 'isolating' MP, but that's a very delicate operation when four players take a flop like this, even when you know all of their tendencies well.

So: I would just call MP's bet on the flop, at most. You have position, you can get out of the way cheaply if someone check-raises, and if many people call, I'd just c/fold the turn. If only you and MP take the turn, you can see what he does there, probably call a ~1/2 pot bet, bet/raise to ~1/2 pot yourself if he checks or min-bets.

River looks fine.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:40 PM
rothko rothko is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL ... marginal situation, hows my line here

edit: don't listen to me.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:43 PM
Pussy Galore Pussy Galore is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL ... marginal situation, hows my line here

don't like the raise on the flop 4 reasons already given.
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