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Old 10-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Rodolphe Rodolphe is offline
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Default 16$ : J9o in BB

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1750)
MP3 (t1540)
CO (t1250)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1460)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t40</font>, SB calls t30, Hero calls t20.

Flop: (t120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, Button folds, SB calls t60.

Turn: (t280) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t280) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t280
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:42 PM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : J9o in BB

Omfginstafoldaments preflop.

Flop and turn are fine, should prob valuebet 120 on river.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : J9o in BB

Fold pre flop - WOW!!!!

Otherwise I would have bet 120 on the flop, check the turn and bet the river with something (need a read on the guy).
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : J9o in BB

You are tempted by the pots odd here and making the call PF from the BB with a weak hand. Don't be. Fold.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : J9o in BB

Calling isn't horrible pf, just don't get crazy with it.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:11 PM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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uh, it is
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : J9o in BB

Fold pf, I like flop, as played vbet turn planning to check behind non 9/J non flush river, as played vbet river.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:26 PM
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Fold pf, I like flop, as played vbet turn planning to check behind non 9/J non flush river, as played vbet river.

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Old 10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : J9o in BB

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uh, it is

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Calling light from the bb in lvl 1/2 to a min raiser is not standard, but it's not horrible. There is nothing wrong with folding and for someone learning that's the best option.

Honestly it's an old argument and I'm not going to rehash it here, but it's definitely not horrible to a btn min raiser and sb caller.
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:35 PM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Calling PF is fine.

Imagine you only continued to play the hand postflop if you hit 2-pair or better, this happens ~6.7% of the time. All you would need to make the preflop call breakeven is an expectation of ~200 extra chips when you hit one of these hands. If you don't suck you will also have equity from pairs.

I flat call flop instead of betting into the PF raiser and play it from there.
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