nobody ever folds anymore

[hoppscot22]

The guy plays pretty straightforward, overall aggression of .6 or something. i just think im drawing dead a vast majority of the time and do not like i should put in 2 more bbs. is this a crazy dumb fold, or have a started to learn and play well?

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $30/$60
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) hoppscot22 is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">hoppscot22 raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">hoppscot22 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hoppscot22 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hoppscot22 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, hoppscot22 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB

[private joker]

nice hand

[vmacosta]

hoppscott,
i think there's something of a disconnect in your logic. If he plays straightforward and passive then he likely won't raise the flop with just a flush draw, given his relative position.

Anyway, I gave him a range of {kj, set, flush with an 8} and it is a close fold. If you are like me and have a very hard time folding the river after peeling the turn then it is an easy fold.

[hoppscot22]

hes passive, but he also thinks he plays really well because he might raise that flop then check behind the turn with a flush draw for a free card thinking that he is a genius free carding me.

i actually dont know if hed raise the turn with KJ... he actually might not, ive seen him do some really weak tight things.

[Crusher19]

as played i think its a good laydown

[Tryptamean]

meh I call it down, but given your read it seems like a good fold

[Abbaddabba]

hopp - who was it?

i dont think anyone faces the field with 2 bets with a good spades unless they plan on following through on the turn. there's just a disconnect in logic.


i think your fold is acceptable at worst against all but the most spewy players. call 3bet / raise turn against an apparent blank is about as strong a line as you can get; no matter who you're up against.

[mntbikr15]

Who was it?

Not sure I like a fold. I think this the K and a spade enough.

[GuyOnTilt]

I feel like doing some math would be good for me today and this is a pretty easy hand for it. Gimme discounted ranges somebody.

[The Dude]

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Gimme discounted ranges somebody.

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How many people on this forum do you think are capable of giving you this?