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Old 10-08-2007, 04:14 PM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

I havn't been at the table for very long. Villian is running 35/21/3 over 400 hands. I have no specific reads/history, and I doubt he does either.

Since I have sat down I am running about 22/21 and havn't even seen a turn card.


Can you put both of us on a range here? I guess what I am asking is, what holding of mine is optimal for this line, and what could villian take this line with.

EDIT: Also, what hands are you checking behind with on turn, and calling river if you are hero?



Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $17.10
CO: $64.40
Hero (BTN): $49.25
SB: $20.50
BB: $61
UTG: $50.75

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $5.50</font>, Hero calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($29.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($29.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.75 and is All-In</font>, BB tanks
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:19 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

hmmm I am not very good at this. Maybe AQ and got lucky on the river. As for what your doing this with I have no idea, not a set, you dont call the raise preflop with qj, I think you raise the flop with QQ. I dont know....i am excited to see the results.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

Villain has to have aa or kk here, both of which id fold on the river. Id put you on qq.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:25 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

I dont see a guy checking the turn here with AA or KK I think these numbers indicate betting each street. He might have AK and decide to try and take it on the river.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

i'd call you with 99/TT, beacuse your line makes no sense, and i can't put you on a hand.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

I think Hero got QJ. Anything else just doesn't make sense.
I'd start my range off like this:
For hero (as played):

Preflop: 22-QQ, AQs+, AJs, AK, 65s+, 97s+
Flop: 66-77, (A-Q)J, 98s maybe, but prolly not against aggro villain
Turn: KJ, QJ, 98s (if we still in with it)
River: Well, the only hands out of those I'd shove here with is QJ. :\

For villain: Gah, I'm really bad at this kinda stuff for villain, and I think it's my biggest leak at tables. I don't really start putting them on a range until I see what the flop action is, basically because I don't have time, and people play all kinda crap preflop. Honestly, I think homeboy got like AJs, KQ, AQ or some pair like TT here or I don't know really. Why did he check turn? Weirdo.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:30 PM
MoWeeNo MoWeeNo is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

Hero: 66,77,JJ though I don't like the check on the turn. Maybe QJs.
BB: AQ,66,77,JJ-AA.

Your second question checking behind the turn and call the river, JTs??
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:30 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

22/21 calling a raise with qj?? I dont know about that.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

You raised then called pf - standard range for me is pocket pairs, AQ, AJ.

66/77 fit your line well. A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] would fit also, only because you checked the turn.

Sets.
AJ
QJ in that order.

I can see you pushing the river with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] if you felt that your opponent could fold KQ, you obviously push the river with sets, and can happilly check turn behind with 66/77 because your playing vs aggro opponent who might a)bet his flush draw and b)probablly doesnt have a flush draw.

QJ is a small possibility if you felt that villian 3-bet light, which his stats would suggest (but in 400 hands I think you might get a read on this)

Villian never has AA or KK imo, this guy bets every street with those hands on that board.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - Who is looking me up here and with what?

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i'd call you with 99/TT, beacuse your line makes no sense, and i can't put you on a hand.

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I dont think the river bet makes any sense with 99/TT unless its just to try and stop a bluff.
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