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Old 10-08-2007, 12:11 PM
Jaswarbrick Jaswarbrick is offline
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Default Good or bad call with queens preflop

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1190)
Hero (t1380)
UTG+1 (t1355)
MP1 (t3490)
MP2 (t1425)
CO (t1770)
Button (t1400)
SB (t1490)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t2340</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t1260 (All-In).

Flop: (t3765) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3765) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3765) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2805

It annoys me how these fish raise all in preflop with the blinds low, such bad players.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Good or bad call with queens preflop

fistpump auto call allllldayyyyy
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:08 PM
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This is AJ+, 22-TT so often it's hilarious.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Good or bad call with queens preflop

without a read on the opponent this is an easy call allday
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:43 PM
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I'd fold without hesitation and take note.

It's only QQ guys and early in the game. Sure you MIGHT win but do you want to risk leaving a tournament because a guy sucked you out with AK?

His chips are not worth it. Winning will not help you come in first!

East fold without a doubt! another 1380 chips are meaningless at this point. But 0 chips means a lot.

Step away from the testosterone guys!
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: Good or bad call with queens preflop

Folding this against an unknown in a low-buyin is bad.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:43 PM
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Going all in and bumped from a tournament with QQ for 1300 chips is what most fish do! (not calling anybody fish - just getting a point across)

Really - the risk reward is just not there at all.

Against a random hand you have a 19% chance of losing everything. Once out of every 5 times you end up with zero chips. 4 out of 5 times you have 1300 more.

Those 1300 chips are basically meaningless at this point in the SNG!

Look at it this way - that 1300 chips gets you 9% closer to getting in the money - yet you are 20% closer to going belly up.

Now is not the time to take a 20% risk of losing everything.

MP1 won't even be around by the time the blinds get t100. Don't YOU feed him.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:47 PM
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If you fold this, you hate money and may as well just light it on fire. You are so far ahead of his range it's not even funny.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:54 PM
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J-P this is not a cash game or MTT (where that would be the proper play)- winning 1300 chips is meaning less at t30. Seriously.

80% of the time you are 9% closer to ITM. 20% of the time you are 100% closer to being OTM.

I love people that think QQ is a power hand with t30. They are normally not around by the time the real SNG starts at t100.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Good or bad call with queens preflop

Thanks guys, mixed opinions i see. Blinds higher = easy call. Blinds at 15/30 = dubious call?
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