Folding an overpair (sunday million)

PrayingMantis · #1 10-07-2007, 07:05 PM

This is from the sunday million. I'm not playing in this hand, it's 2 random villains.

I post this because there was this hand I posted a few days ago from the WCOOP ME and a debate developed about the possibility of someone folding an overpair there (everyone said it never happens).

To make it clear: this is a very different spot. I"m not saying the 2 spots are similar.

WCOOP hand

Here's a random dude, tanking for a long time after the flop c/r, then admitting to folding AA. Of course, can't be 100% he actually folded AA or any overpair, but there's some real chance IMO he just did that.

FWIW, I don't think it is THAT rare as some people seem to think. When stacks are deep enough (in MTT terms), and people think about surviving, some (very few ones, i admit) will fold overpairs, although sometimes for very bad reasons of course. (and in the WCOOP ME there was much more scared money than in some random sunday million).

(In the chat the guy who folded said: "set I guess", right before folding, and after folding he said: "folded aa for you", or something very similar)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t10000)
UTG+1 (t9950)
MP1 (t9950)
MP2 (t10100)
MP3 (t10175)
Hero (t9900)
Button (t9925)
SB (t9950)
BB (t10000)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t150, UTG+1 raises to t400, 2 folds, MP3 calls t400, 4 folds, UTG calls t250.

Flop: (t1275) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t750, MP3 folds, UTG raises to t3900, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t2775

Anyway, if I posted this already, what do you actually put these guys on? it's v early in the tournament, none of them was particularly active or anything.

gobboboy · #2 10-07-2007, 07:23 PM

I'd fold there too.

PrayingMantis · #3 10-07-2007, 07:32 PM

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Yes it's a very ugly spot for UTG+1 if he does have an overpair.

baltostar · #4 10-07-2007, 07:47 PM

UTG+1 should have bet more on the flop, 4/5 to pot-sized, 1020 to 1275. As is, it looks weak, like a possible semi-bluff. If UTG is super-aggressive he might make this move.

gobboboy · #5 10-07-2007, 07:50 PM

Yeah I love trying to get sunday million randoms to fold overpairs.

eBo · #6 10-07-2007, 08:43 PM

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Not this early on. These donks don't think they are going to beat 6000 ppl by folding.

eBo · #7 10-07-2007, 08:45 PM

I fold AA here, no problem. There are trickier situations out there.

gobboboy · #8 10-07-2007, 08:57 PM

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Not this early on. These donks don't think they are going to beat 6000 ppl by folding.

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Dude, leveled.