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Old 10-07-2007, 04:34 PM
iheartponeez iheartponeez is offline
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Default Straight runs into tough decision

No stats on Villain:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($23.85)
UTG ($5.25)
MP ($35.90)
Hero ($28.15)
SB :#A500AF(Villain)/ ($6.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $1, SB :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($3.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Villain checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $0.5</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, Villain calls $2.

River: ($8.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, Villain calls $2.95 (All-In).

Final Pot: $14.15

Should I have simply shoved the turn?
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

Hold on, the tough decision is?

Shove turn.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

bet this flop all day.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

Why do I bet the flop?

I figured I should have shoved turn, but I worried I had a caller that I would scare off.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

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bet this flop all day.

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why?
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Old 10-07-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

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bet this flop all day.

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why?

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because pfr raiser checked it. if he had anything he would of bet.

you can steal the pot a large % of the time here.
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

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because pfr raiser checked it. if he had anything he would of bet.

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I have seen this on a lot of posts. Could someone explain this to me? You don't have ANY reads whatsoever on the preflop raiser. Is this something you should always assume about an unknown? What if he loved to check-raise? What if he has a high pocket pair and feels that if he bets, he chases everyone off on a dry flop?

I agree with stealing if you have reads, but I don't get doing it without reads. Maybe someone could explain it to me.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:07 PM
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because pfr raiser checked it. if he had anything he would of bet.

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I have seen this on a lot of posts. Could someone explain this to me? You don't have ANY reads whatsoever on the preflop raiser. Is this something you should always assume about an unknown? What if he loved to check-raise? What if he has a high pocket pair and feels that if he bets, he chases everyone off on a dry flop?

I agree with stealing if you have reads, but I don't get doing it without reads. Maybe someone could explain it to me.

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obviously ur going to get played back at some of the time. but a lot of people forget how hard is to make a hand, most of the time you bet here you take it down no questions asked.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

looks fine imo
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Straight runs into tough decision

why do we shove the turn?

no str8 draw will call and probably most pairs fold :/
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