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Old 10-07-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

I have collected 1k FPP on stars and am considering this book as one option to spend them. Anyone read it? Or should I spend it on a two Greg Raymer poster instead [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]?
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:30 PM
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:38 PM
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

It`s an excellent book. But it`s pretty difficult math in there. Imo, you should pick an easier book first. You play NLHE ?
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

Ankenman.

And yeah, MOP > a 2 Raymer poster.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

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It`s an excellent book. But it`s pretty difficult math in there. Imo, you should pick an easier book first. You play NLHE ?

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I'm math student, so I think the math part will be ok. I play LHE.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

Sushi, it is great book to "get" things that seem incongruent in limit hold'em, but have a lot of value, especially HU. It has a lot of scenarios like playing HU against a play-all opponent e.g. and simulations to go with it. Most of the examples are kind of simple, but that's just because the sims become too complicated with more variables.
It also has a rigorous mathematical definition to stuff like EV, which other books miss.

The only thing I don't like, is that it takes so long to read it... The little tidbits are eye-opening, but they are, as I said, tidbits and it takes a while to open your eyes.
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

I read the whole book and spend a good deal of time trying to understand the toy games and try to find ways to apply these to the normal mid-stakes LHE games I play.

The book helped improve my thinking about limit hold'em somewhat, but the entire chapter on optimal play was mostly a waste of time for me. I learned a few things but it took forever to get through.

The other chapters are easier to read and will help you think about the poker more mathmatically. (however you must already have a solid understanding of basic poker math)
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

Where could I read about stuff like;
This bluff needs to work X% to be profitable,
given opponent range a shove is profitable etc..

So i guess just EV +/- stuff, is this covered in this book?
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Mathematics of Poker Chen and Ankerman

The mathmematics of poker is mostly very complex talk about how to solve poker from a mathematical perspective.

I would read "Getting started in Hold'em" by Ed Miller. Then "Theory of Poker" by David Sklansky.
Then either "Professional NL holdem" or "Small Stakes Hold'em"... or both. (SSHE also has a lot of good math concepts for limit poker!)
Additional math can be found in "Weighing the Odds in Hold'em Poker".
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