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Old 10-06-2007, 02:25 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default I hate folding sets...

...but I think folding was justified in this instance. Do you agree? No real reads on villian, although I had previously won a pot or two against him. With the line he took, it just looked so much like he had a made straight or flush.


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UTG: $9.40
MP: $27.80
CO: $25
Hero (BTN): $25.45
SB: $25.55
BB: $24.40

Pre-Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $1, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls $2

Turn: ($6.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $17</font>, Hero???
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

i´m never folding here like ever!!!
what hands are in his flop calling range that beat you on the turn? flopped flush?
i not stacking off here is a huge leak imo. i found that many villains will bet the call flop/ bet or raise the turn big w/ a big flush draw here b/c they realize that their equity has dropped but they still have outs.
by folding here you basically give villain cradit for a flopped flush. i´m pushing the turn every time.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

Do you shove, though, because it seems like shoving makes it so that only hands stronger than yours will call.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

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Do you shove, though, because it seems like shoving makes it so that only hands stronger than yours will call.

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Check stack sizes. Hero will only have $5 left if he were to just call the raise.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

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Do you shove, though, because it seems like shoving makes it so that only hands stronger than yours will call.

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Check stack sizes. Hero will only have $5 left if he were to just call the raise.

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Old 10-06-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

Ah okay.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

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i´m never folding here like ever!!!
what hands are in his flop calling range that beat you on the turn? flopped flush?
i not stacking off here is a huge leak imo. i found that many villains will bet the call flop/ bet or raise the turn big w/ a big flush draw here b/c they realize that their equity has dropped but they still have outs.
by folding here you basically give villain cradit for a flopped flush. i´m pushing the turn every time.

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I was essentially assuming that he had flopped a flush here. That, or possibly something like 89o with a heart. Or even a larger set.

You don't think those types of holdings are likely enough here to warrant folding? Does everyone else agree?
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

i'd get it in. don't love it, though.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

i dont think that you can ever assume a flopped flush like that with a set.

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not stacking off here is a huge leak imo. i found that many villains will bet the call flop/ bet or raise the turn big w/ a big flush draw here b/c they realize that their equity has dropped but they still have outs.
by folding here you basically give villain cradit for a flopped flush. i´m pushing the turn every time.[ QUOTE ]


monkover makes a good point here i see this alot at micro stakes. i think you want to come over the top on the turn
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: I hate folding sets...

Can you guys give some examples of some holdings that he might take this line with that I beat?
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