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Old 10-06-2007, 01:33 PM
CmnDwnWrkn CmnDwnWrkn is offline
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Default TP2K against very LAG opponent

Villian is 42/20/9 over 55 hands. Threw me off a little bit, because this type of opponent isn't too common at these stakes.

Thoughts on all three streets, please. Do we raise at any point, or just let him keep betting? Is the river a must-call?


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): $25
CO: $15.80
BTN: $25.85
SB: $31.40
BB: $20
UTG: $24.30

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, CO calls $0.85, BTN folds, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.50</font>, BB folds, Hero???, CO folds

Turn: ($8.40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4</font>, Hero???

River: ($16.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4</font>, Hero??
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:37 PM
TonyRoflmao TonyRoflmao is offline
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Default Re: TP2K against very LAG opponent

WTF? Raise flop. I can think of a few draws he might bet there.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against very LAG opponent

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WTF? Raise flop. I can think of a few draws he might bet there.

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Relax. I've seen him 3-bet several times in the past few orbits, so I have been getting the impression that he has been 3-betting light, maybe with complete air. I didn't want to give him the opportunity to do that.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against very LAG opponent

So you're putting him on T7? I don't understand what the question is. River is an obvious call and you should have raised the flop.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:50 PM
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So you're putting him on T7? I don't understand what the question is. River is an obvious call and you should have raised the flop.

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The guy is a borderline maniac. I could see him putting his entire stack in on a flush or straight draw. Do we really want to give him the opportunity to do that by raising the flop is my question.

If you guys think the flop should be raised, please explain the reasoning behind this. Thanks.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:55 PM
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So you're putting him on T7? I don't understand what the question is. River is an obvious call and you should have raised the flop.

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The guy is a borderline maniac. I could see him putting his entire stack in on a flush or straight draw. Do we really want to give him the opportunity to do that by raising the flop is my question.

If you guys think the flop should be raised, please explain the reasoning behind this. Thanks.

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The board is extremely wet and the CO has yet to act. You have a good hand right now so you need to raise for protection and value. If he reraises all in, so be it. Then you have a decision. I'm still wondering what your question is on the river. Are you asking if you should raise?
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:01 PM
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So you're putting him on T7? I don't understand what the question is. River is an obvious call and you should have raised the flop.

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The guy is a borderline maniac. I could see him putting his entire stack in on a flush or straight draw. Do we really want to give him the opportunity to do that by raising the flop is my question.

If you guys think the flop should be raised, please explain the reasoning behind this. Thanks.

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The board is extremely wet and the CO has yet to act. You have a good hand right now so you need to raise for protection and value. If he reraises all in, so be it. Then you have a decision. I'm still wondering what your question is on the river. Are you asking if you should raise?

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Not so much a question on what to do on the river specifically as what to do on all three streets. I changed the post so that there are question marks for all streets.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against very LAG opponent

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So you're putting him on T7? I don't understand what the question is. River is an obvious call and you should have raised the flop.

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The guy is a borderline maniac. I could see him putting his entire stack in on a flush or straight draw. Do we really want to give him the opportunity to do that by raising the flop is my question.

If you guys think the flop should be raised, please explain the reasoning behind this. Thanks.

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I am not sure I want to raise or not???? But if what you say here is true of this villain a RAISE is 100% correct and stacking off here vs this villains range would be +EV..The hand is complicated by the CO yet to act..

Not all LAGs are created equal some "LAGs" I would just let bet and bluff off there stack..Other "LAGs" will just fire one bullet and then not go any further...The hand is complicated by the CO yet to act..What are the "maniac's" tendencies in multi way pots OOP??? I lean to a raise fold to a CO shove ans call if the "maniac" shove based on your read..
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:01 PM
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So you're putting him on T7? I don't understand what the question is. River is an obvious call and you should have raised the flop.

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The guy is a borderline maniac. I could see him putting his entire stack in on a flush or straight draw. Do we really want to give him the opportunity to do that by raising the flop is my question.

If you guys think the flop should be raised, please explain the reasoning behind this. Thanks.

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I am not sure I want to raise or not???? But if what you say here is true of this villain a RAISE is 100% correct and stacking off here vs this villains range would be +EV..The hand is complicated by the CO yet to act..

Not all LAGs are created equal some "LAGs" I would just let bet and bluff off there stack..Other "LAGs" will just fire one bullet and then not go any further...The hand is complicated by the CO yet to act..What are the "maniac's" tendencies in multi way pots OOP??? I lean to a raise fold to a CO shove ans call if the "maniac" shove based on your read..

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He was betting or raising on pretty much every street in any hand that he was involved in. Rarely checking or calling. No one was really playing back at him,so Ididn't see many examples of him folding.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against very LAG opponent

42/20/9 isn't borderline, he's fully a maniac. His aggression factor is ridiculous: You're obviously way ahead of his range, before or after he 3-bets you. Raise flop and get it all in if possible.
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