J10s 3-bet pot, put AI on flop

holland3r · #1 10-05-2007, 11:24 PM

Villain is 24/21/2 over a small sample, I've 3-bet his blind steal at least once before and he's folded.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($349)
MP ($261.05)
Button ($200)
Hero ($565.40)
BB ($224.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, Button calls $16.

Flop: ($46) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $34, Button raises to $178

Villain tanked for like 30 secs and then shoved. Who calls here? Who plays flop differently otherwise?

tufat23 · #2 10-05-2007, 11:37 PM

call now, but u shouldnt bet flop if u didnt know what u wanted to do vs shove.

also preflop isnt optimal

Nielsio · #3 10-05-2007, 11:45 PM

You're behind like always.

mdkrahn · #4 10-05-2007, 11:52 PM

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but we likely have ~40% equity on this flop I think.

whiterice714 · #5 10-05-2007, 11:54 PM

i'm not sure i like preflop 3bet OOP...

flop's easy fold IMO.... you've shown considerable strength throughout this hand & there's literally nothing you beat here except AsKs & even then, you're not very far ahead (actually i think you might even still be slightly behind)

i probably tank it for like 30 seconds to feign that i'm contemplating a hard decision w/ KK & then muck it

Nielsio · #6 10-06-2007, 12:05 AM

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but we likely have ~40% equity on this flop I think.

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40 at best, wayyy worse at worst.

klownage · #7 10-06-2007, 12:11 AM

lol fold

tufat23 · #8 10-06-2007, 12:25 AM

if you're really behind here always, lol at betting flop

I rebluff you · #9 10-06-2007, 12:46 AM

Next time please call this PF and bet/call on the flop. JTs plays really well on the flop, OOP you just shouldn't have elevated it to a big pot and put yourself all in on the flop like this. It's really not about "I must defend my blind because I got a hand...".

If you must be so conscious to his blind steal and defending it, try using a marginal hand like A7 to defend, not a hand you want to go to flop with that isn't strong enough to 3bet OOP PF.

RikkiDee · #10 10-06-2007, 12:48 AM

3 betting here is fine wtf

its not for value obv

i think bet/fold is fine as well