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Old 10-03-2007, 01:36 PM
The_Bonzo The_Bonzo is offline
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Default KK pre-flop, 175bb deep

Am I supposed to get away from this?

Villain is 35/19.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $220.75
BB: $54.40
UTG: $111.25
UTG+1: $20.50
Hero (MP1): $174.80
MP2: $141.00
CO: $156.60
BTN: $52.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.25</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $4.25, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $220.75</font>, Hero calls all-in for $124.80
Uncalled bet of $45.95 returned to SB

Flop: ($355.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Turn: ($355.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($355.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $355.85 ($3 Rake)

SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Aces full of Tens) and WON (+$178.05)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Tens full of Kings) and LOST (-$174.80)
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:38 PM
holdme holdme is offline
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Default Re: KK pre-flop, 175bb deep

obviously. he had aces.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:44 PM
matt85 matt85 is offline
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Default Re: KK pre-flop, 175bb deep

Any idea of 4-betting ranges?

I dont like it but I think you can see AK/QQ here occasionally against 35/19 to make this a call.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:47 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: KK pre-flop, 175bb deep

35/19 for full ring are insane stats for full ring. 4-betting/calling seems ok.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:49 PM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: KK pre-flop, 175bb deep

This is standard against a 35/19. He shows up with AK, QQ, even JJ often.

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Old 10-03-2007, 02:10 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: KK pre-flop, 175bb deep

God no don't fold.
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