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Old 10-02-2007, 10:02 PM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

....with villian aggressively betting.

Villian was 23/15 and postflop aggression of 2.8 over a sample of 100 hands, never got into any big pots other than this one, so no real read.

I was thinking a couple of things;

1) Could be a set. EV on turn 77%
2) Could be a AdX two pair hand. EV on turn 70%
3) Could have KdQx or KxQd and be freerolling me. EV on turn 40%
4) Could have flopped a flush, but this is less likely imo, due to his aggressive line. EV on turn 0%

My feeling was I had to call off the $30 on the end even though I might be drawing dead, because I'm getting around 3-1 and sometimes I'll be a 2-1 favourite or so I reckon.

Anyway not sure on this one, what you think?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($49.25)
SB ($62.10)
BB ($64.65)
UTG ($58.15)
Hero ($71.85)
CO ($36.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.5</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($9.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $57.6</font>, Hero calls $27.60.

River: ($124.70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $124.70

Regards Mack
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:05 PM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

nh, folding is not an option because his range is too wide
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

I don't like the flop call at all, you may be drawing dead and if not probably only 4 outs. If you think he's FOS then raise the flop.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

I probably fold the flop.


Turn is a money card though. You're ahead of sets and AdX might really stack off especially AJ,AT. Just hopefully it's not something like 6d5d.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

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I don't like the flop call at all, you may be drawing dead and if not probably only 4 outs. If you think he's FOS then raise the flop.

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I thought he was neither FOS, nor had he flopped a flush, but he wasn't likely to pay much attention to any raise of mine if he had a J with a decent kicker. I thought he probably CRs a flush though.

Mack
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

i also fold the flop, you are really drawing to like 2 live 6 live outs. as played, i play the turn the same.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

Then you are calling a PSB to hit a 4 outer on the turn? knowing he will bet strong on the turn again?
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

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Then you are calling a PSB to hit a 4 outer on the turn? knowing he will bet strong on the turn again?

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Why 4? Could be anything from 0-10 the way I count. I'm hoping he won't have it, and will slow down, also the pot was more like 4.20 or something, he bet 2.50 into it. He led into me and something didn't seem right, I guess it was bad as you say.

Mack
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

any K, Q, or, 9 of diamonds is almost never an out.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: KQo no diamond makes straight on turn after 3 diamond flop.......

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any K, Q, or, 9 of diamonds is almost never an out.

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I'm not counting any of those. Just possibly 2 Ks 2 Qs 3 As and 3 9s.

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