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Old 10-01-2007, 08:26 PM
JanelleBB7 JanelleBB7 is offline
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Default Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

I am against an unknown player here and in retropect I think maybe I should have called here on the river. Seems like maybe he was just on a flush draw and since I didn't shove the turn when he raised me. He sensed I would fold to a bet on the river... what do you all think? I should have shoved the turn shouldn't I have?

Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $34.45
BB: $23.60
UTG: $17.05
UTG+1: $21.55
MP1: $21.15
Janellebb7 (MP2): $26.00
MP3: $25.70
CO: $25.00
BTN: $9.60

Preflop: Janellebb7 is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Janellebb7 raises to $1.00</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($4.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Janellebb7 bets $1.50</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($7.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Janellebb7 bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.00</font>, Janellebb7 calls $5.00

River: ($23.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, Janellebb7 folds

Pot Size: $35.25 ($1.10 Rake)
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:39 PM
DonCologne DonCologne is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

You have here an oesd, the nutflush draw and an overpair. Unfourtunatly you do not know if the straight and flush outs still are good and so I think check behind the turn and calling a river bet if you can improve (or raising if the ace hits) is much better here than fight the battle at the turn.

If you bet the flop, bet it much harder here.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:44 PM
thisnamedoesntfi thisnamedoesntfi is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

I would fold as played on the turn. I like a check behind or a stronger bet on the turn.

His check raise looks like he's full or bluffing your weak looking turn bet. Would be a strange move without the nut flush draw if it was a flush draw.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

You're betting waaay too weak. Use the pot button when betting
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:48 PM
thisnamedoesntfi thisnamedoesntfi is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

You don't have to bet full pot all the time, but at the very least half pot bets.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

at least 1/2 pot the flop. check turn.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:55 PM
gordo16 gordo16 is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

I generally prefer to check behind on this turn; the flop is very dry.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:55 PM
chucky chucky is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

Checking behind on turn gives you position in a small pot on the river so you can get value from river flush.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:16 AM
jpg7n16 jpg7n16 is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

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... Seems like maybe he was just on a flush draw...

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More unlikely since you have the NFD. Unless he's superoveragro, most opps don't c/r non-nut flush draws. 2 is more likely. Given his line of C/call c/raise. &lt;-edited

Why flop bet so small?
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:16 AM
alavet alavet is offline
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Default Re: Should I have shoved the turn with my aces and Nut flush draw?

well you cant fold this to such bet now, even you behind. thank god if he check river and call his value betif you get your flush
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