2/4 Two Thin Vbets with TT. Do I bet? If so how much?

[Pudge714]

I have like 25 hands on both villains and neither has done anything retarded yet.

I think JJ is a easy vbet here. TT is closer.
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $416.00
BB: $380.10
UTG: $394.00
MP: $405.90
CO: $593.04
Hero (BTN): $410.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $50.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($104) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $74.00</font>, Hero calls $74.00

Turn: ($252) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($252) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero?

Do I bet here? If I check do I call?
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $364.00
BB: $169.00
UTG: $677.20
Hero (CO): $650.00
BTN: $1,084.58

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00, <font color="red">BTN raises to $55.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $43.00

Flop: ($128) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $90.00</font>, Hero calls $90.00

Turn: ($308) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($308) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero?

[13_Xerxes]

I check both.

1) I don't see villain looks you up with 9s or AK.

2) You raise UTG, so I don't think he will call you with less than TT. And he can trap on this turn with a high PP. I prefer induce a bluff and snap call.

[Praetor]

i def check both

[smsam]

1) check
2) check

[Eagles]

I def bet the first one I don't think its close. Vs anyone decent you have the best hand like 80% of the time.

The second one is closer because a lot of villains will play JJ/QQ like this.

[AAismyfriend]

I'm all for value betting thin, but I'm fairly sure that you are up against A high in both hands, and I feel there is really no value in betting.

[0evg0]

I bet with way worse on Hand #1

Hand 2 is a check unless you know he never bluff-raises AK. Then it's a small bet/fold.

[Yeti]

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I'm all for value betting thin, but I'm fairly sure that you are up against A high in both hands, and I feel there is really no value in betting.

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bet smaller then

[Pasterbator]

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I'm all for value betting thin, but I'm fairly sure that you are up against A high in both hands, and I feel there is really no value in betting.

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bet smaller then

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!!!!!!!

[Eagles]

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I'm all for value betting thin, but I'm fairly sure that you are up against A high in both hands, and I feel there is really no value in betting.

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bet smaller then

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Im confused could you expand on this concept please