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Old 10-01-2007, 02:46 AM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Meh, A3s 3-way

UTG is not folding any ace to me IMO. And I think will pay me a bit if i hit a flush...

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $246.55
BB: $213.70
UTG: $286.40
CO: $104.30
Hero (BTN): $312.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $7.00, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($23) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $23.00</font>, Hero calls $23.00, <font color="red">SB raises to $65.00</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $42.00

Turn: ($176) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $174.55</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $174.55 returned to SB

Pot Size: $176.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

I'd rather just raise the flop and get it in seeing both cards. SB having A2/A8 IMO is more likely then a set, meaning you also have split outs. and if he has A2 then you have a 3 as an out aswell. Calling the flop and having to fold the turn is pretty sick.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

If that's your read then your only other option is to backraise shove over SB, which is pretty crappy IMO. Sucks, but don't see how else you could play this.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:10 AM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

SB is tightish tag, and has a set almost always i think.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

I think villain has A2/A8 more often than a set here, so if you want to see all streets, I'm thinking you have to come over the top AI on the flop. Calling the flop and mucking the turn is teh suck.


Oh and reads are goot....
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:17 AM
SirFelixCat SirFelixCat is offline
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

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SB is tightish tag, and has a set almost always i think.

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Well,
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

17,820 games 0.047 secs 379,148 games/sec

Board: Ac 2h 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.263% 58.82% 02.44% 10482 435.00 { 88, 22, A8s, A2s, A8o, A2o }
Hand 1: 38.737% 36.30% 02.44% 6468 435.00 { Ah3h }</pre><hr />

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

4,313,230 games 2.656 secs 1,623,957 games/sec

Board: Ac 2h 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 69.266% 69.40% 00.00% 2993517 0.00 { 88, 22 }
Hand 1: 30.734% 30.80% 00.00% 1328263 0.00 { Ah3h }</pre><hr />

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

175,911 games 2.234 secs 78,742 games/sec

Board: Ac 2h 8h 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 75.381% 72.71% 02.67% 127906 4697.00 { 88, 22, A8s, A2s, A8o, A2o }
Hand 1: 24.619% 21.95% 02.67% 38611 4697.00 { Ah3h } </pre><hr />


easy fold on the turn then, only getting 2:1, but I think the decision still has to be made on the flop, otherwise you're only giving yourself 1 street to hit.... :shrug:
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

This is good...shoving flop sucks imo.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

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This is good...shoving flop sucks imo.

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if he had raised more and the 2 was a 7 i think shoving is good, but not here
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

I don't like shoving flop, but if were gonna proceed at all, calling flop and folding turn (which any hand is going to bet) then we are just donating money.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: Meh, A3s 3-way

If you are going to fold on the turn, your odds for a flush aren't legit cause you arent gonna make it to the river if you don't hit. Meaning your odds aren't that great to call the flop raise.
Its either push or fold IMO.
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