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Old 09-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

Villain is terrible and the reason I am playing. He is like 70/30 preflop. Preflop for me is completely standard since I know villain will call with like T7o.
He has rarely called me down at showdown. Lots of hands I would have sets or TP or OPs and bet three streets and he would call two barrels and fold the third. As well lots of times I would c/c and snap off his big bluffs, but he might be adjusting to that and he thinks I'm overaggro and stationy. I don't think I have seen him raise a bet postflop.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $350.83
Hero (BB): $1,562.10
UTG: $745.75
CO: $150.50
BTN: $772.36

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $4.00, SB calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40.00</font>, BTN calls $36.00, SB folds

Flop: ($84) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $70.00</font>, BTN calls $70.00

Turn: ($224) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $162.00</font>, BTN calls $162.00

River: ($548) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero?
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:08 PM
Pasterbator Pasterbator is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

fwiw, they NEVER adjust to you check/calling their river bluffs. They take pleasure in bluffing you out of pots, so let them.

Based on your read, i would c/c this river just about always. These kind of people bet pretty much 100% of their range on the river when you let them. You beat most of his range.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

I agree c/c here is best. Ace is scary since he can probably call 2 streets with A high, but w/e. What do people think about betting for value here? I think he can have an 8 here a lot, which he likely wont turn into a bluff on the river.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

i bet here, 1/2 pot ish is probably about right.

dunno what you c/cers are expecting him to suddenly turn into a bluff on the river [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

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dunno what you c/cers are expecting him to suddenly turn into a bluff on the river [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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89o
77
KQ

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Old 09-30-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

hed probably check those behind (except KQ)
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

I am in the bet for value camp. 1/2 pot
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

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i bet here, 1/2 pot ish is probably about right.

dunno what you c/cers are expecting him to suddenly turn into a bluff on the river [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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My experience with this type of player is that they will just autobet the river with mediocre hands with showdown value. Dont think theres much value in betting this river, bad players just go: zomg ace my hand cant be any good now! This doesnt make much sense for a thinking player but a lot of fish think exactly like this.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

i dont think that a 70/30 is a) adjusting or b) knows what showdown value even means. I would c/c and expect him to think you cant possibly have a good hand every time he bluffs and decide to do it again.

edit: another reason i c/c is because he prob wont pay off w/ too many hands here since he doesnt beat AK anymore
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Deep vs. Huge Fish I had an Overpair.

I think if villan is more stationy/passive we should bet like $300. We'll still get a call from 77 and other [censored] that he might have checked behind.

If he's more bluffy (ie. peels multiple streets with like QJ or whatever), I would check.
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