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villian is 22/9/2 thoughts everywhere
Hero (SB): $101.85 BB: $116.60 UTG: $100.00 MP: $99.00 CO: $104.85 BTN: $33.05 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $10.00 Flop: ($29) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00 Turn: ($59) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, UTG checks River: ($59) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $33.00</font>, UTG calls $33.00 |
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I would've bet the turn in case he was betting his T/J or heart outs on the flop. If you check the turn and he is on a draw you're not getting anything on the river. Seems like it worked out for you though and he had hit on the flop though.
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What's up with the flop c/c [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Bet/call the flop. TPTK + 3bet pot + drawyyyyyy board = BET FLOP |
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Bet flop.
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Ur check on the flop just screemed "I have a big hand please bet at me"
And when he did you don't raise...? what gives I mean if he's there with KQ or QQ, you'll be able to get away from a big loss by raising. you're not doing it one way the do the other; don't try an in-between strategy. |
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I prob bet a bit more on the river but this isn't bad.
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First off - Welcome to the forums [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] A few points on your post.
[ QUOTE ] Ur check on the flop just screemed "I have a big hand please bet at me" [/ QUOTE ] This statement contradicts itself. Why does Hero's flop check represent strength? And if it does, why how would that invite villian to check? I do agree that c/r >>>> c/c, but this flop gets checked through a lot (unless OP has a better read than he is sharing) so betting is the best option. [ QUOTE ] I mean if he's there with KQ or QQ, you'll be able to get away from a big loss by raising. you're not doing it one way the do the other; don't try an in-between strategy. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think we are looking to get away from this hand is he raises. The board is very drawy, and we should have equity to call a shove if he c/r. |
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I havent run anything through pokerstove, and i prob should before i make any comments, but this was my intuitive thought at the table. I really think that if we are c/r the flop, and anymore money goes in we are going to see KK QQ KQ 88 as well as some big flush draws alot. I dont know what our equity is, but i feel like its not great, and since a c/r kills all actions from hands we are beating, I think that c/c > c/r. And as i said before I think if we get it all in on the flop we arent goign to be in great shape, which is why i dont like bet/call. I do really like what bluegrassplayer says about betting the turn, i think that c/c and betting the turn on a blank is prob the best line, and we could prob easily find a fold on the turn if he raised. Also this setsup a nice check call on the river if he is bluffing.
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You need to bet your flops larger, so $22 on the flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Chase,
No way does getting a ton of money in this flop signify set,2purr....no way. There are very common SD's, FD's, TPGK type hands and so on. From your posts (and playing with you live) I know you have a decent amount of aggression. That being said, I prefer a flop lead. With this flop, the turn will get checked behind a ton. So many 'showdown hands' and 'possibilities' from his end that he will exercise pot control quite often here. Whether it be taking a free card to his draw (in which case inducing on the river is the best plan) or just slowing down with a hand like KJ. I also, would not look to c/r anywhere in this hand. Even if you lead the flop, going for a stack a donk line will only end up with a checked through turn too often. With all those draws out there, I am willing to stack off. Coming to grips with that will allow me to take a line that looks to extract the most. Checking is not involved in that line. My guess is that he had a hand like KJ,AQ,JJ. |
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