Very tricky opponent - JJ

n4rf · #1 09-27-2007, 08:21 AM

Villain is 20/15/2 after 131 hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($15.40)
MP ($8.15)
Hero ($30)
Button ($9.95)
SB ($9.75)
BB ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($0.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $0.4, Hero raises to $1.95, BB calls $1.55.

Turn: ($4.65) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.2, BB calls $2.20.

River: ($9.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $5.6 (All-In), Hero calls $1.60.

Final Pot: $20.25

He obviously outplayed me with that check raise on the river. Was it standard play? I was 50/50 on checking the river(since he couldn't have been drawing to anything) or betting for value since I thought I might have the best hand. Ideas?

I instantly knew I was beat when he C/R AI.

monkover · #2 09-27-2007, 08:37 AM

check behind turn, no draws and hardly any hands that you get two streets of value from.

ev_slave · #3 09-27-2007, 08:55 AM

I believe it's under "essentials of uNL" that Pokey has a post detailing when you shoud / shouldn't bet the turn. One of his reasons is "to get the option of a free showdown." I think betting the turn is fine in this case since w/ that A hitting, betting your JJ is essentially a bluff. But following that reasoning, you should have checked behind on the river and seen that showdown for free.

monkeymaps · #4 09-27-2007, 11:06 AM

looks like some FPS played set by villan. Check turn or river no need to bet both IMO.

Spurious · #5 09-27-2007, 11:59 AM

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check behind turn, no draws and hardly any hands that you get two streets of value from.

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you doubt that he'll call with a 9 here?

n4rf · #6 09-27-2007, 12:27 PM

I defiantely did not put him on an Ace, and I put him on a 9 until the river bet. I thought I might be able to get a call if he had a 9. His range wasn't too tight and he didn't reraise me so i didn't give him a very big pair.

proudpapa · #7 09-27-2007, 12:49 PM

I think I was the villain here -- I'm at work without HH, but it seems to match. I'd be curious to know if anyone thinks my play was horrid.

DonManuel · #8 09-27-2007, 01:05 PM

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check behind turn, no draws and hardly any hands that you get two streets of value from.

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+1

DonManuel · #9 09-27-2007, 01:07 PM

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I think I was the villain here -- I'm at work without HH, but it seems to match. I'd be curious to know if anyone thinks my play was horrid.

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What did you have?

traz · #10 09-27-2007, 01:48 PM

I typically check the turn here. I don't expect to get 3 streets of value out of a worse hand once the A comes