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Old 09-27-2007, 02:43 AM
hagbard celine hagbard celine is offline
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Default How would you play this TPTK spot?

$1/$2 live game -- 9 handed

BTN (100)
SB (200)
HERO (300)

No specific reads on BTN. SB is an old guy, very tight but aggressive, and straightforward. I have been by far the most aggressive at the table which has been playing tight.


Preflop:

MP limps, folds to BTN who raises to $8, SB raises to $22, Hero looks down at AsKs and calls $22, BTN folds.

Flop ($52):
Ad Qh Tc

HERO ?

What's the best line here? Some of Villains range I beat, other parts have me pretty crushed.

Do I lead? How much? More importantly, if I lead, am I leading for value? Am I leading to see if I'm behind, prepared to fold if raised? If Villain calls, how do you play the turn?

Should HERO c/c flop, c/f fold turn? c/c, c/c, c/f river?

Who raises PF?

What do you think?
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:36 AM
mythrilfox mythrilfox is offline
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Default Re: How would you play this TPTK spot?

Umm, did SB check? If so, I definitely bet, basically to find out where you are but also for value. Also, I don't like 4-betting preflop. Sounds like villain is too tight to 4-bet for value here.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: How would you play this TPTK spot?

My apologies...I f***ed up the post...

CO raises to $8, BTN raises to $22, HERO calls $21, BB folds.

FLOP:

Flop ($52):
Ad Qh Tc

HERO ?

What's the best line here? Some of Villains range I beat, other parts have me pretty crushed.

Do I lead? How much? More importantly, if I lead, am I leading for value? Am I leading to see if I'm behind, prepared to fold if raised? If Villain calls, how do you play the turn?

Should HERO c/c flop, c/f fold turn? c/c, c/c, c/f river?

Who raises PF?

What do you think?
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: How would you play this TPTK spot?

check see what he does
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:40 PM
hagbard celine hagbard celine is offline
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Default Re: How would you play this TPTK spot?

OK...

1. HERO checks, BTN bets $65, HERO?

2. HERO checks, BTN bets $40, HERO?

3. HERO checks, BTN checks

TURN: 8s

HERO?
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: How would you play this TPTK spot?

Once you called the turn, you played turn & river good imho.

I'd prefer folding the flop. You beat exactly JJ/KK/(99/AJ), u loose to AQ/QQ/TT/AA/(KJ).
U don't get value from worse (not much...), and u're in very bad shape vs his betting range...
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: How would you play this TPTK spot?

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Once you called the turn, you played turn & river good imho.

I'd prefer folding the flop. You beat exactly JJ/KK/(99/AJ), u loose to AQ/QQ/TT/AA/(KJ).
U don't get value from worse (not much...), and u're in very bad shape vs his betting range...

[/ QUOTE ]

Not sure where you're getting me calling the turn...I didn't post what actually happened, but rather asked how others would play this spot.

In the real hand I checked, Villain fired $65, and I folded for the exact reasons you mentioned above, namely that I'm not beating much.

If I call, ultimately I'm praying for him to have KK (but I have one of them) or AK for the tie (but I have one of each of those, and the board has an A). He doesn't seem scared of me trapping with TT or QQ, so I thought he had exactly AA or QQ. Smooth calling his raise from the blind, IMO, eliminates KJ from my range, so there's no repping the nuts.

Really I was curious if I should have led the flop, and for how much. c/f seems really nitty, but as mentioned above, this isn't the greatest flop for my hand given the PF action.

After the hand I thought about whether i should have 4bet PF, as it might have gotten a fold from QQ.
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