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Old 09-27-2007, 02:26 AM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

This a busted draw enough times? i feel like the only made hand he can have is ATs, he could have possibly peeled KJs/JTs on the flop though, but im not sure if he does it with the SB to act.
Fwiw the SB was decent tag.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $615.00
BB: $600.00
UTG: $168.96
MP: $667.15
Hero (CO): $627.00
BTN: $579.00

Reads: <font color="blue">20/17/3.5 over 400, seems pretty std, doesn't 3b me as much as the other regs do.

views me as 22/20/5 or around there. I have only been at this table for 3 orbits, havnt done anything so far.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, BTN calls $21.00, SB calls $18.00, BB folds

Flop: ($69) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $54.00</font>, BTN calls $54.00, SB folds

Turn: ($177) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($177) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $130.00</font>, Hero
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:44 AM
DeucesNeverLoses DeucesNeverLoses is offline
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

I think he could be super strong, like KTdd, or super weak like 9Tdd trying to bluff you off an ace. I still fold though, since he could be trying to value town an A.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

why would he check turn with KTdd?
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

Fold the river, are you putting him exactly on like 76d or something?
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:43 AM
mattaasen mattaasen is offline
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

insta muck


u bet into 2 other people on flop he has got to give u credit for something this board is pretty coordinated i doubt he is bluffing busted diamond near enough to make calling plus ev.

this is j-10 or ace-9 s or something ............
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

raise &gt; call imo?m a bit tpisy
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

No legit jacks he can have - he'd raise AJ or QJ on flop prob, or at least bet them on turn and i don't see a good reg. peeling with bottom pair + gutshot.

By c/r river you only really rep TJ, KJ, 8J because of your turn check. Also, villian might think u're trying to c/r him off a split.

Also, AT is like the only A thats in his preflop range given his stats.

If you consider his range as AT and 45s,56s,67s,78s,89s,9Ts(*4),57s,68s,79s,8Ts then its close but prob a call. I don't think he calls AT preflop all the the time tho, and once u start discounting that a bit, its leaning more to a call. really close.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

fold
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

ur all saying fold, but the only post with some reasoning says close call...???
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: 600nl, QTs oop vs tag, call river?

The only reasonable hands that beat you are AT, KJ and JT. If you assume that villain's range is ATo, ATs, KJs, JTs and 98dd through 54dd, this is a call because you have like 36% equity in the pot and only need 30%. If u throw in KJo as well though it turns into a fold, but then if you throw in the diamond one gappers, etc etc... it depends how you construct villain's range, but it's definitely close.
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