folding KK preflop?

[Suwalski]

UTG is 23/14/1.4
button is the biggest tagfish on partypoker and runs 22/11/1.5

I call ok? fistpump?


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $419.00
BB: $400.00
UTG: $363.85
CO: $757.13
BTN: $394.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $104.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $363.85</font>, BTN calls all-in for $358.00, Hero calls $290.00

[BobboFitos]

no

[jono]

dont

[aditya]

yuck. This could be a spot where folding KK preflop would actually be reasonable.

[Suwalski]

[ QUOTE ]
no

[/ QUOTE ]

Bobbofittos: you should never fold KK preflop in the games you play
Me: you is a liar
Bobbofittos: Is not
Me: got it

Then i get all-in and you say no.

Im so confused :s

EDIT: was it no to fistpump?

[MatthewRyan]

dude, les then 150bbs , NO NO NO N O NO

[aditya]

I think the NO was to don't fold KK preflop. Not No to calling.

[rand]

its close...but not close enough, stick it in there

[breitling996]

i havent ever folded kk preflop and i dont think i will ever for 100bb, but over 60k hands i have had kk vs aa 13 times and in that same stretch aa vs kk twice... prob just variance.. but at least half the time i know im runnin into aa, and im not just a negative worring type... As well if no one ever folds kk pre ever, has any one actually done the math involved and posted it.. and if not does any one have the math and will post it... thx

[Nick Royale]

This isn't really close.