KK preflop, definitely not a standard hand

[Black winter day]

Nl1000 at Crypto

Good TAG opens UTG for 40 (we both have ~1000), i reraise to 125 with KK from UTG+1.My image is Taggy, recently joined the table and haven't done anything significant yet.

Very very tight and nitty button (something like 18/6) shoves allin for 700 total, UTG tanks a bit and shoves too....

Is there any chance in the goddamn world one of them doesn't have AA?

[Herrigel]

Never in my life before I folded KK, but I would pitch it quickly here...

[tannenj]

sick. easy fold.

[ChrisV]

There's some small chance, but it's still a fold.

[Jinx]

easy fold la, easy fold

[Black winter day]

I am surprised, usually noone in MSNL advocates folding KK preflop.

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

well in a 3 way pot u only need 33 percent equity to break even, if someone has aces you have 20% equity, which is your worst case scenario. I think thats something to think about. Not saying this is a call but someone has to have AA almost everytime for you to fold here, im not even sure what to do. Sick sick spot

[KvGalen]

what do you think UTG does with QQ, AK here?

[Black winter day]

The thing is, i might be up against AA vs AKs, which makes my equity is about 10%.

Also, even if someone has QQ

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,370,754 games 0.015 secs 91,383,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 18.875% 18.74% 00.13% 256920 1816.00 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 14.619% 14.49% 00.13% 198576 1816.00 { QhQs }
Hand 2: 66.505% 66.37% 00.13% 909810 1816.00 { AhAs }

Even if this is the best possible scenario - AK and QQ, my equity is suprisingly only slightly over 50%.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,370,754 games 0.005 secs 274,150,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 17.111% 16.95% 00.16% 232364 2183.33 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 29.450% 29.19% 00.26% 400118 3567.33 { AsKs }
Hand 2: 53.439% 53.18% 00.26% 728954 3567.33 { KcKd }

[Black winter day]

If i was UTG, i'd cetainly fold AK, having only 40$ invested and being reraised and shoved on by another tight player.

I'll probably fold QQ as well with a player behind.

But let's say, that as turned out - this particular UTG is a bit more loose than i do [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]