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Old 09-25-2007, 05:48 PM
pifhluk pifhluk is offline
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Default $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

Im a tad weary of the limp with only 5bbs but Ive seen donks do that with a huge range. Is my middle pair and gutshot good enough here for a call? Im not sure what to put him on could really be anything from draws, paired the board, a bluff or kk/aa.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t3580)
SB (t2500)
Hero (t2505)
UTG (t1220)
MP (t2755)
CO (t940)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t625) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t715 (All-In)</font>, SB folds, Hero?
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:35 PM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

Folds very quickly
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:41 PM
jurrasstoil jurrasstoil is offline
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

without any reads on villian it's pretty hard to tell, he could really have anything. He might be more than desperate with roughly 5bb, but the call preflop is either unbelievable weak or a tricky trap to lure you in.

The odds are ok, giving you nearly 2-1 on your hand, but without reads and a hand range it's hard to tell if the odds justify a call here.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:30 PM
Velocity Velocity is offline
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

I shove preflop a fair amount, depending on the what type of sucky the other players are. Call the flop.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:33 PM
malfobi malfobi is offline
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

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Folds very quickly

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Clicks turbo fold once hes thinking about pushing/ or insta pushes.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:35 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

I'm definitely calling here.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

I call if it can be really anything.. cant put him on Q+ here with almost 1:2 pot odds, after 2 checks by blinds hes allin doesn't mean anything at all, and if he had those nuts we are afraid of hed check again maybe. hes push doesn't look inviting.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: $27 100/200 a25 Middle Pair Shortstack Shoves

easy call.. we have a pair and gutshot so we arent in bad shape against an overpair and there is a decent chance he has worse.
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