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Old 09-25-2007, 07:53 AM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Note: I don't have a read on him but over the 11 hands I've got on him, he seems terrible. I have been active at the table, running like 24/22.
On the flop, is it better to just bet out? getting value from middlepairs and such?
I called the flop cause I thought it felt like a bluff..

PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BU ($260)
BB ($206.55) (91/9/3.09/30) (11h)
CO ($161.60)
MP ($199.40)
Hero ($212.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BU raises to $7</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $25</font>, BB calls $23, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>.

Flop: ($57) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BB bets $58</font>, Hero calls $58.

Turn: ($173) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BB bets $123.55 (all-in)</font>, Hero..
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: JJ

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over the 11 hands I've got on him, he seems terrible.

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terrible in what sense? does he spew like whoa, is he a huge calling station, or what?
this whole hand depends on what sort of terrible he is, and without more information itll be hard to give any reasonable advice.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:59 AM
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I just meant he seems terrible in the 91/9/3 kind of way.. no other observations...
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:17 AM
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Why not bet the flop, you get a better idea where you stand, otherwise you are blindly paying off any King or better for your whole stack. A bad player could easily do this with KQ etc. If he is that terrible then wait and get his money later as it should happen pretty soon.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: JJ

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I just meant he seems terrible in the 91/9/3 kind of way.. no other observations...

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Seen any hands he played weird? Or is the stats over 11 hands all you got?
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: JJ

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I just meant he seems terrible in the 91/9/3 kind of way.. no other observations...

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Seen any hans he played weird? Or is the stats over 11 hands all you got?

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playing 10 of 11 hands and only raising one gives us some sort of an idea of his preflop play, but the AF is what really matters in this case. in 11 hands, AF is anything but accurate and I would pretty much disregard all stats in this case.
vs an unknown who plays too many hands, i would probably bet/fold the flop. if i decided to check/call, i think i would be folding the flop once he pots it. given that you didnt, i think i fold now anyway.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:36 AM
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I bet this flop most of the time. As played fold turn. If he's really that bad that he'd do this with a hand you beat then you'll get his money later.
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