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Old 09-24-2007, 11:24 PM
aceskay aceskay is offline
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Default 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

CO is 63/30, and SB is 33/30.

I haven't seen SB really get out of line, but he is obviously a little on the lag side. CO could have any kind of hand.

I am fairly new to the table, so no specific reads. Assuming no reads, I feel like a case can be made for raise, call, and fold. So what do you do and why?

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CO ($170.90)
Button ($220.25)
SB ($133.05)
Hero ($118.10)
UTG ($221.55)
MP ($100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $13</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

what did he 3bet to?
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

um, $13
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

I generally just fold. You're not gonna know where you're at in the hand unless you flop an 8, and they're not likely to flop a big enough hand to go broke with it. You aren't closing the action and you're in bad relative position (between the pfr and the other player, can't trap any dead money from a c-bet and call). You can 4-bet sometimes to mix it up (I'd make it about 32), but I fold around 90% of the time.

I don't think I'm ever calling here.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

o [censored] i misread it...i thought u repopped to 13 i was like wtf..sorry...

yea i just dump it here i think
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

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I generally just fold. You're not gonna know where you're at in the hand unless you flop an 8, and they're not likely to flop a big enough hand to go broke with it. You aren't closing the action and you're in bad relative position (between the pfr and the other player, can't trap any dead money from a c-bet and call). You can 4-bet sometimes to mix it up (I'd make it about 32), but I fold around 90% of the time.

I don't think I'm ever calling here.

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That is kind of exactly my line of thinking. Guess i was just checking if that was too nitty.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: 88 in bb vs. laggy 3-bet

I wouldn't 4bet this at NL100 you get looked up so light and nearly every flop scares us.l Not calling either as we dont close the action.
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